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Undimmed is about living a clear life, a life without dimmers, things we consume or do to ease discomfort, silence intuition, or simply soften the edges of the day-to-day experience of being human. Dimmers can include unhealthy or escapist relationships with all kinds of things, such as alcohol, work, perfectionism, spending, sex, food, even generosity. Undimmed is about tuning into our truest selves, making choices for positive change, and reclaiming power, agency, and freedom from unwanted ...
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The Other Way

Kasia Stiggelbout

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Hello and welcome to The Other Way, a lifestyle podcast for women exploring uncommon, unconventional, or alternative approaches in life, health, spirituality, and work. Here, you can expect real, raw conversations with founders, researchers, trailblazers, experts in medicine, spiritual teachers, and all-around inspiring humans on the journey of doing things our way. It may not be “the way,” but it is the other way. So, if you’re like us and feel called to listen to that deeper voice - you’re ...
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A podcast to challenge your assumptions and inspire you with ideas from the periphery, the margins. We live in times of unprecedented change. The systems - financial, social, ecological, environmental - on which we depend are stretched to breaking point. Professional, personal and organisational ‘norms’ increasingly less normal. We are in transition. The ideas to shape tomorrow exist today at the margins. What might we learn from ancient wisdom, eastern philosophy or indigenous thinking? Or ...
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The world needs innovation now more than ever. The good news is that you can train yourself to be a better innovator. Join former Google Engineering Executive and Superintendent of Well-being Bill Duane as he dives deep with innovators from business, science, social change and technology on the internal innovation that unlocks external innovation. More information at www.billduane.com Theme music Where's Leon by kind permission of Taraval
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Send us a text What if the key to transforming your career and personal life lies in embracing discomfort and letting go of numbing habits? In this episode of "The Other Way," we sit down with Cecily Mak, a mother, writer, podcast host, Founder of the ClearLife movement, and co-founder of Wisdom Ventures, who shares her journey from a high-powered …
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Send us a text What can Zen philosophy teach us about navigating the unpredictability of entrepreneurship and life? Tune into The Other Way as we chat with Leo Babauta, bestselling author and founder of Zen Habits, to explore how we can embrace joy and opportunity, even in the face of chaos. Leo shares his personal journey with a warmth and authent…
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Send us a text This episode takes us on a beautiful journey exploring the deep connections between Buddhism, Reiki, Daoism, and Traditional Chinese Medicine. We dive into Lara’s inspiring path—from her beginnings in Europe to working as a designer in NYC, and eventually immersing herself in the study of Chinese Medicine and Reiki, while embracing t…
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Send us a text 🌱 BONUS TREAT: Marysia's School of the Sacred Wild Apprenticeship program starts 9/7; we have a special 15% off code for The Other Way listeners: https://apprentice.schoolofthesacredwild.com/plans/1442208?bundle_token=dcd7a347476a35c8b05bba5b42147e80&utm_source=manual (Valued at $525!) What if you could transform personal trauma into…
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Send us a text Welcome back to The Other Way! I'm Kasia, your host, and I'm thrilled to reconnect with you all after our season break. As many of you know, I wrapped up last season during a challenging time. My mom was diagnosed with cancer just days before our last episode, and I've been in NYC since mid-July, supporting her, navigating this uncer…
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Send us a text Hi everyone, welcome back to the show. Today’s episode is a season wrap-up and life update. It isn’t something I had been expecting to share, but it’s a profoundly significant update and season of life for me. My initial plans were to share a bit about my recent reiki training in Ojai, a bit about my trip to Spirit Weavers in June, a…
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Send us a text Today we have another hormonal health deep dive for you all: we’re covering female life stages of fertility into perimenopause with Integrative Nutrition Health Coach, Maddy Pollack. Maddy’s story is kind of wild: After surviving cancer at 25 years old, she became passionate about nutrition, movement and mindfulness in order to get m…
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Send us a text Hello everyone, and welcome back to The Other Way! My goal with this podcast is to feature inspiring guests who are forging unconventional paths in work, life, and health. From experts on women's fertility and menopause to spiritual teachers exploring Zen philosophy in today's world, we dive into multifaceted topics that intrigue me …
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Send us a text Hi everyone! Welcome back to The Other Way. I'm thrilled to be here after taking a short break to recover from Spirit Weavers and my Reiki training in Ojai. I'll be sharing an episode about those experiences soon. Today, I'm excited to welcome back an amazing guest, Dr. Gabby Pavelko, a Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine based in…
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On today’s episode of 'Undimmed' Cecily talks with Sunnyside co-founder, Nick Allen, about both of their personal and professional journeys with alcohol. Nick grew up in a household with two parents who struggled with alcoholism before ultimately finding sobriety. While Nick has had his ups and downs with drinking, up until this point has not felt …
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Today we talk with my old friend and colleague Dr Frederik Pferdt, who is on a mission to empower everyone to fulfill their visions for the future. From shaping Google's fabled creative culture as Chief Innovation Evangelist to nurturing the minds of students at Stanford University's Hasso Plattner Institute of Design, Frederik has a track record o…
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Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine and writer Dana Leigh Lyons joins Cecily this week for an honest conversation about her relationship with dimmers: disordered eating, alcohol, and even screen time. Dana opens up about her early struggles with food, and later, her relationship with alcohol, which she quit in 2020. She describes how her experie…
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Send us a text Hi Everyone! I am so beyond excited to welcome back Deborah Eden Tull. Eden is a Zen Meditation teacher, author, activist, founder of Mindful Revolution, and teacher of mine. We had Eden on the podcast in 2022 (link below) and I’m beyond thrilled to invite her back this year to dive deeper into luminous darkness, embodiment, her pres…
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Kamelle Mills, a renowned fitness instructor, performer and confidence coach, joins Cecily for an inspiring and deeply personal conversation about resilience, faith, and overcoming life's darkest moments. In this episode, Kamelle recounts pivotal moments that sparked his transformation from battling alcoholism, eating disorders, and societal expect…
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Send us a text Today's episode is all about fertility, and it's not what you think! I am joined by Alexandria DeVito, MS, CNS, a functional nutritionist who specializes in fertility and preconception health. We're diving into the topic of preconception - from food and environment to age + how your preconception care even affects the health of your …
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In this episode of Undimmed, host Cecily Mak is joined by Christine Gutierrez, a licensed psychotherapist, life coach, and expert in self-worth. Christine, the author of "I Am Diosa: A Journey to Healing Deep, Loving Yourself and Coming Back Home to Soul," shares her personal journey from childhood spirituality to confronting her struggles with alc…
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Send us a text What if aligning your daily routine with your hormonal cycles could transform your productivity and well-being? Today I'm diving into a solo episode providing an update on life, spirituality, and how cycle syncing (or cyclical living) has changed my life. This solo episode of The Other Way explores how embracing your natural rhythms …
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This week’s episode of Undimmed features a candid conversation with Dan Harris, former ABC News anchor and creator of the Ten Percent Happier meditation app, podcast, and book. Dan shares his personal journey with cocaine use, sparked by his experiences in war zones and his quest for adrenaline, leading to a panic attack on live television. His pat…
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Send us a text Hi, dear friends. This week, I have a very special episode about cancer prevention—with a female hormone twist. We're diving into holistic cancer prevention with one of the world's experts, Dr. Nalini Chilkov, who is a pioneer in Integrative Cancer Care, focusing on cancer prevention and immune enhancement. According to the British J…
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Renowned photographer, creator of the Embody Project, and Cecily’s dear friend, Erica Scott, joins the podcast this week for an intimate conversation among dear friends who have been exploring their relationships with dimmers, primarly alcohol, since they first connected decades ago. In this heartfelt conversation, they cover three primary chapters…
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Send us a text Welcome back, community! I am really honored to bring on my next amazing guest: Sara Avant Stover. This week's episode is perfectly timed with her latest book which is NOW live, Handbook for the Heartbroken. Today we're talking about the messy stuff —heartache, health issues, money troubles—and how they shape us. I so deeply apprecia…
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Meditator and author Diego Perez, known primarily under his pen name Yung Pueblo, sits down with Cecily to discuss his undimming process. Like so many of us, Diego experienced alcohol and drugs for relief and recreation in his twenties but after a particularly dangerous experience, found himself searching for a deeper, healthier way of living. Tune…
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Send us a text Today I am so excited to welcome two incredible women whom I deeply admire: Yasmin Nouri (Host of Behind Her Empire podcast and Co-founder of Beeya Wellness) and Kaya Purohit, MS (Nutritionist and Co-founder of Beeya Wellness). Not only have these two ladies been instrumental in my own journey as a co-founder, but their product has h…
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Embracing different perspectives and understanding the long-term impacts of our actions, particularly in terms of cultural shifts and societal evolution, can give us valuable insights to navigate our present and future more effectively. Author Dougald Hine rejoins Ben to discuss a new book by Tyson Yunkaporta, who suggested that the best thing to d…
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Welcome to the first episode of Undimmed, A ClearLife Podcast. We’re kicking it off with someone near and dear to Cecily’s ClearLife journey, Jennifer Pattee. Join Cecily and Jennifer as they dive into the choice to live alcohol-free, self-actualization (is anyone else living their Beyoncé life?), and how connection and community are medicine. Jenn…
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Send us a text Did you know that 1 in 10 women suffer from endometriosis? From cramps, and fatigue, to no symptoms at all endometriosis is a condition that affects so many women - yet is wildly under-studied. It is one of the FEW conditions out there where women are told: "There is no cure". Today's episode is about diving deep into this condition,…
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Send us a text Hi everyone! Today I'm speaking with Joe Hollier, Co-Founder of Light -> a minimalistic, non-addictive smartphone alternative. For those of you who have known me for a while I've been on a long-time mission to become more intention with the information I'm taking in and to cultivate more focus and flow into my day. Partner that with …
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Where do new ideas come from? Your mind regenerates from the outside in, teased to life by artists, innovators, agitators playing on the margins. Their work inspires yours. This is the spark, the stuff of new ideas. As with your mind, so too an old city. Berlin in 1992 was a tired place, run dry by 50 years of division, devoid of life, energy and n…
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Send us a text Hi everyone! I'm hopping on for a solo episode. I got a lot of great feedback from the last one, so I wanted to share some personal updates for you all to connect more deeply with the community here AND to share what's been coming up in my life (in case it resonates and can be meaningful for you). On today's episode, I cover: A busin…
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Send us a text Today we're diving into female health x Ayurveda, functional nutrition, hormone balancing with food, and the incredible research behind Yoga Nidra. My guest for the podcast this week is Nimisha Gandhi, a nutritionist, researcher, educator, community-builder, and devoted mother. With a background in functional medicine nutrition, Ayur…
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There’s a way of seeing personal growth and transformation as a cycle of rupture, descent, emergence, and return – an inward journey that challenges us to confront our own demons, integrate different aspects of ourselves, and ultimately find a way to contribute to the collective good. Christine Raine is a speaker, facilitator, and podcaster. She de…
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Send us a text Today's episode is a bit different than the usual... but one I've been so excited to publish for a while. Calling all my witchy babes - we are diving into all things witchcraft, magick, breathing through stereotypes, and more. We're chatting with Tenae Stewart, cottage witch and published author of the best sellers, The Modern Witch'…
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Send us a text In today's episode, we've got Sarah Tulin, a "human design introducer" who is bringing human design into the corporate world. We're merging astrology, Kabbalah, I'Ching, and Myers-Briggs with this powerful system as we dig into how to employ Human Design for finding your purpose, building your team, and reaching your full potential. …
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Bringing movement into our daily routines is beneficial not only for our physical health, but our mental and emotional wellbeing too. Consciously integrating activity into our lifestyles helps us counteract the sedentary nature of modern life, especially for leaders and entrepreneurs sat in front of a laptop all day. Sal Jefferies is an embodiment …
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Send us a text Today's topic is ALL ABOUT HORMONES. Ashley Rocha, the founder of Ladywell, joins us to chat about women's hormonal health, herbalism, and what it's like building a business while raising two (!!) babies under 3 years old. We are going to explore the link between a symptom-free menstrual cycle and fertility, and how herbal supplement…
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Send us a text Ever felt like you're constantly running on a treadmill of productivity, yet somehow you're still not getting anywhere? I can definitely relate. As a self-proclaimed Type A - I often found myself in hyperdoing mode (wholly disconnected from my body and any part of my feminine, flowy being). What would this lead to? Burn out, disatisf…
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Embracing discomfort and experiencing emotions to the fullest can give us the guidance needed to navigate positive life changes, even in difficult circumstances. But sometimes those emotions are too difficult or too stark, and so we use things like alcohol to turn down the volume. But by doing so, we dim ourselves. Today, Ben is in conversation wit…
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Send us a text Today, we're diving into some awesome topics – Motherhood, clean skincare, and the journey of building a cult-favorite brand. Our special guest is Bethany McDaniel, the founder of Primally Pure. We'll chat about every aspect of her business, from the spa they've built to their amazing line of skincare, deodorant, dry shampoo, and mor…
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Send us a text We are BACK with our cherished guest, Amy Berryhill, and today we are confronting the cultural taboos of menstruation and discovering the life-giving power within our feminine cycles. In today's episode, we navigate the flowing path of embodiment. This practice goes beyond the rigidity of schedules and to-do lists, encouraging us to …
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Send us a text Embark on an enlightening exploration of fertility and feminine energy with our esteemed guest, Ariele Myers, a revered acupuncturist and fertility virtuoso. This episode promises to guide you through the delicate symphony of Chinese medicine, offering profound revelations on how aligning our lives with our deepest womb wisdom can ca…
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Send us a text Unlock the secrets of your hormonal health as we journey with Dr. Danielle Wright-Terrell, an esteemed OBGYN, and CEO of Honey Coaching, through the ebbs and flows of the female body's natural rhythms. This episode taps into her vast expertise, from unraveling hormonal imbalances to offering a lifeline during the transformative postp…
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Our willingness to embrace and make space for all aspects of ourselves, both the good and the bad, can lead to greater peace and contentment in our lives. By practicing gratitude and mindfulness, we can shift our mindset and find joy in the present moment. And the way we perceive the universe, whether as benevolent or something to fear, shapes our …
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Send us a text Hello and welcome to The Other Way, a lifestyle podcast exploring uncommon, unconventional, or alternative approaches to life, business, and health. I’m your host, Kasia; I’m a founder and mindfulness practitioner on a mission to harmonize “being” with “doing”, and discover my most authentic and aligned self along the way. In my expe…
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Send us a text The Nourish podcast -> is now "The Other Way"! Welcome to our 2024 update episode - with a lot of changes coming :) ✨ We've updated our brand, podcast name, and design. ✨ I launched a new business - and product in the space of embodiment, cyclical living, and mindfulness ✨ I went through a massive, uncomfortable state of limbo in 202…
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Society is facing a crisis of masculinity, which is leading to harmful behaviour and violence towards women. Many cultures understand the need to initiate boys to men. We, in the west, have lost that understanding, that opportunity. As a consequence, are we inadvertently raising lost boys? Is it time to rediscover initiation? This is some of Sujith…
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Exchanging ideas too early and too often hinders innovation, but promoting absurdity in the workplace can lead to new and creative solutions. The workplace shouldn’t simply be a task-focused environment, but a place to nurture our human traits, like our capacity for absurdity. Agustin Chevez is a workplace architect and researcher who focuses on st…
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Cross cultural efforts can be a minefield. Cliff's areas of geographic focus are mainly post colonial countries in Asia. As a white dude American, Cliff knows the pitfalls. What's surprising the how these challenges can become an innovation superpower via the intention of care and the skills of empathy and cognitive perspective taking. Cliff is mos…
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Life can take unexpected turns, inviting us to reevaluate our priorities and make difficult decisions. When that happens, it’s up to us to listen to our inner voice, and take up the challenge of living a life in alignment with our true selves. Ray Martin is an author and former management consultant. He embarked on a journey of self-discovery after…
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Embracing creativity and storytelling can help us navigate through uncertain times and find hope and connection. Through writing and sharing our thoughts and experiences, we can unlock new perspectives, gain a better understanding of ourselves and the world, and contribute to a more positive future. This is the second of a two-part conversation wit…
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Send us a text ✨ Want to meet Botnia and more amazing Bay Area brands in person? Join us at the Sausalito Winter Fest! This Saturday, December 16th from 10AM-5PM (@sausalitowintermarket on IG)✨ Are you ready to revolutionize your skincare routine? Prepare to be enlightened as we take you on a journey through the world of clean, plant-based skincare…
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