Rated in the top 3% by ListenNotes and going strong for nearly 300 episodes since 2018, The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is dedicated to helping marketing agency owners and executives build stronger firms so they can grow, get acquired, or enjoy more peace of mind. Hosted by agency veteran and Sales Schema CEO Dan Englander, each episode features interviews with successful agency founders, industry experts, and business strategists who share insights on client acquisition, team building, of ...
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We’re having real and raw conversations with successful recruitment entrepreneurs about what is happening in their businesses right now and their plans to navigate market changes.
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Welcome to the Agency Growth Machine Podcast with Randy Schwantz. This show is for agency owners who want to remain independent, develop their team of producers, and do it in a way that they too can grow and profit from.
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Welcome to GrowthPixel - a Healthcare Digital Marketing Agency! This podcast is your essential resource for doctors, clinics, and hospitals across India seeking to unlock significant digital growth. We share expert strategies in SEO, social media, PPC, and reputation management, specifically tailored for the healthcare sector. Learn how to attract more patients, enhance your online presence, and navigate the complexities of medical marketing with a proven leader. Tune in for actionable insig ...
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The #1 Peak Performance Show for Creative Agency Founders, Owners & Leaders. Vivid interviews with guest practitioners at the coal face of the industry, who are taking massive action and building their dream agency. Featured guests include agency owners from the full spectrum of creative business. Each episode we explore the agency journey from the unique perspective of the show's featured guest. We unlock & dissect strategies, tools & tactics from the trenches, as well as the hottest high-p ...
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Agency adaptation, gym-sized markets, and why your best new business channel is obvious
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39:57In this episode, I sat down with @Sharon Toerek from Innovative Agency to talk about the real shifts happening in agency business development — and the constant evolution that comes with them. We unpacked why 2025 is the year agencies need to get honest about their positioning, how trust — not information — has become the key currency, and why spec…
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Season 9 | Ep1 Samm Green on rebuilding Few & Far towards £1m EBITDA in 2025, despite serious burnout and two years of losses
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1:14:25This week, on episode 1 of season 9 of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Samm Green, co-founder of Few & Far, a UK-based product management recruitment business with 22 people and a powerful story of resilience. Samm was the very first guest I ever recorded on The RAG back in 2019, and at that time, he had big plans to scale to 40 staff and eventually…
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Scaling Past 50 Employees: How seoplus+ Built a Global Agency
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38:50In this episode of the Digital Agency Growth Podcast, I’m joined by Brock Murray, co-founder of seoplus+, a digital marketing agency he launched back in 2012 that has grown into a 50+ person team serving clients across North America and beyond. Brock shares the arc of his journey, from launching his first web hosting business at 14, to building seo…
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How We Built an Irrigation System for Agency Referrals
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30:23Most agencies live and die by referrals. But here’s the catch: They usually happen randomly. When you do ask for intros, it feels like giving people homework. And even if you’re consistent, it’s hard to know where the real opportunities actually are. In this solo episode, I share my journey from the “analog networking” days of wandering trade shows…
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Trust Over Tactics: The Agency Growth Lever You’re Overlooking (Dan on The Small But Mighty Agency Podcast with Audrey Kwan)
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36:52In this episode, I talk with @Audrey Kwan in the Small But Mighty Agency, to tackle one of the most misunderstood growth levers in agency land: referrals. Together, they unpack how trust is the new currency in a cold-lead-saturated market—and how smart agencies are building systems around referrals, not just hoping they happen. ⏱️ Timestamps 0:00 –…
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Anthony Webster on authenticity, inclusion and leading DVF Recruitment to success
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1:08:48This week on The RAG Podcast, I am revisiting my episode with Anthony Webster, Managing Director of DVF Recruitment and board member at Career Legal. Anthony and I go way back - we worked together for five years and even planned to launch Hoxo together before his journey took a different turn. At that point, Anthony made a life-changing decision: h…
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How to Choose the Best Healthcare Marketing Agency
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17:42Best Healthcare marketing Agency - that phrase gets thrown around, but here’s the real story: not everyone claiming that title delivers the right strategy, tech, or patient focus. In this episode, we pull apart what it truly takes to hire the Best Healthcare marketing Agency for your practice. You’ll get clear on what separates a flashy sales pitch…
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How Eric Baum Turned Plumbing Ads Into a Multi 7-Figure Agency
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34:41In this episode of the Digital Agency Growth Podcast, I’m joined by Eric Baum, founder and CEO of Blue Leads—one of the top HubSpot Solutions Partners globally. Eric shares the full arc of his journey, from accidentally starting an agency after hacking Yellow Pages spend for his plumbing business, to scaling a team of 40+, to building one of the mo…
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Laura Clark on taking over OA Group from her mum and leading it into the future
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1:10:16This week on The RAG Podcast, we are revisiting my episode with Laura Clark, CEO of OA Group. Laura’s journey is one of the most unique I’ve ever shared on the show. She grew up watching her mum build Osborne Appointments (now OA Group), joined the business at 19, and earlier this year bought it from her mother to take over as CEO. We talk about: W…
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Turn Proposals Into a Q4 Growth Engine: How Agencies Can Unlock Upsells & Faster Closes
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44:39Proposals can make or break your agency’s Q4 pipeline. Too vague, and prospects don’t see the value. Too detailed, and they get stuck in analysis paralysis. In this episode, Dan is joined by Joe Ardeeser, founder of Smart Pricing Table, to talk about how agencies can strike the right balance, upsell strategically, and close deals faster as the year…
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How Ben Wallin and Dan Cox scaled Edison Smart to 31 staff and expanded globally
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1:10:58This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m revisiting my episode with Ben Wallin and Dan Cox, founders of Edison Smart. When I spoke to them in August 2022, they’d already hit £1.7m revenue and built a team of nearly 20 in just over a year. One year later, they scaled to 31 employees, expanded into the US, put boots on the ground in Dubai, and built a struc…
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From Summer Slowdown to Q4 Pipeline: An Outreach Reset for Agencies
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44:22As summer winds down, many agencies face the same problem: pipelines that dried up in July and August, and a mad dash to generate momentum before year-end. In this episode, Dan lays out a practical action plan for September outreach — how to reset your business development, stand out to brands, and build the right conversations that lead to Q4 resu…
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Kevin Frater on leading global recruitment growth from 12 to 180 at Frank Group
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1:06:54This week on The RAG Podcast, we are revisiting Episode 1 from Season 7 with Kevin Frater, Director at Stable10 and a recruitment leader with over 18 years of experience across Allegis and Frank Group. Kevin built his reputation as a fixer, turning underperforming offices into high-performing teams. Most notably, he grew a team in Germany from 12 t…
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Roger Nairn on Sales, Systems & Landing Dream Clients
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47:49In this episode, I sit down with Roger Nairn, CEO of JAR Podcast Solutions, to talk about how he’s grown a top-tier production agency working with brands like Amazon, Lululemon, Amex, and Cirque du Soleil. We get into the systems, sales strategies, and creative positioning that helped him go from “no name, no business plan” to building a client lis…
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Joe Jani on growing Metric Search to 90 heads and a private equity deal in six years
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1:05:06This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m revisiting my episode with Joe Jani, founder and CEO of Metric Search, one of the fastest growing recruitment firms in the world. Joe launched Metric in 2019 and in just six years has scaled to 90 heads across the US and UK. At only 31 years old, he’s already closed a private equity deal, taking seven figures off t…
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Why Most Agency Sales Plans Fail (and What to Do Instead)
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21:30In this episode, I sat down with the Happy Clients Podcast to talk about what’s working in agency sales right now, without the cringe, without the outdated playbooks, and without turning you into a full-time cold caller. Most agencies can sell for their clients all day, but when it comes to their growth, things can get messy. I’ve spent the better …
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Jordan Shlosberg on how AI can help you remove admin forever!
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1:29:05This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m revisiting my chat with Jordan Shlosberg, founder of Atlas, the first AI-first CRM built for the recruitment market. Jordan’s no stranger to scale. Before Atlas, he founded Prosapien, growing it to $40 million in revenue in just five years before exiting. He’s now bringing the same disruptive approach to recruitmen…
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Building a Content Agency That Doesn’t Play Small - Kristen Sweeney
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41:43In this episode, I sat down with Kristen Sweeney, the founder of Every Little Word — a boutique content and communications agency that’s laser-focused on helping complex B2B orgs share what they actually know in ways that actually work. We got into the nitty-gritty of what it means to build trust with subject matter experts, why most B2B content is…
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Stuart Mitchell on using personal brand to build a seven-figure agency in nine months
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1:03:19This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Stuart Mitchell, the founder of Hampton North, a specialist cybersecurity search firm based in the US. Stuart launched his business, and in just nine months, he had already surpassed the seven-figure mark. There were no cold calls, no marketing spend, just LinkedIn and a consistent commitment to personal …
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Healthcare Marketing for Doctors: Why Your Specialty Needs Its Own Strategy
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16:00If you're a doctor still relying on referrals and hoping patients will just find you—this episode is your reality check. In this episode, we dive deep into why Digital Marketing for Doctors must be specialty-specific to work. A pediatrician, a plastic surgeon, and a dermatologist all serve different audiences with different expectations. So why u…
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Lessons from Building an Eight-Figure Niche Agency - Stewart Gandolf
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49:59In this week´s episode Stewart Gandolf joins me to talk through what it actually takes to niche down, build a sustainable agency, and scale without losing your sanity or soul. Stewart’s been in the healthcare marketing game for over two decades, and his experience building Healthcare Success into one of the top firms in the space is loaded with tac…
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Digital nomad to 60% profit: Chris Redmond on remote success and exit plans
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1:13:10Chris Redmond is back on The RAG for the third time and his story keeps getting better. When I first interviewed Chris in 2019, he’d just gone fully remote and was chasing a digital nomad lifestyle with no fixed office. At the time, I thought he was mad. Then COVID hit, and while the rest of the industry scrambled, Chris and his team were already b…
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Top 5 Digital Marketing Agencies for Doctors in Mumbai
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18:32Are you a doctor in Mumbai looking to attract more patients and build a stronger online presence? In today's competitive healthcare landscape, digital marketing isn't just an option – it's a necessity. With 82% of patients turning to search engines to find a doctor, your digital footprint can make or break your practice. In this episode, we'll guid…
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The Table Stakes for Agency Growth in 2025
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46:57This solo episode is a deep dive into the unsexy but transformative groundwork that agency owners need to lay to build a reliable new business engine. Dan breaks down what really separates enterprise-level agencies from the ones stuck in "Cobbler’s Children" limbo — not just in terms of tactics, but in mindset, strategy, people, and execution. He s…
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Season 8 | Ep41 Season 8 wrap-up: What I’ve learned from 40 founder stories this year
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13:50What I’ve learned from 40 recruitment founder interviews in a year This week’s episode of The RAG is a little different - it’s just me After 40 in-person interviews across the UK, Dubai and Sydney, I wanted to take a moment to reflect on what I’ve learned in season 8 and what’s next for the show. Here’s 3 key learnings that I cover in this solo epi…
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Mark Orttung - Hard-Won Lessons from Scaling an Eight-figure Services Firm
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51:51Most agencies never crack eight figures. Mark Orttung helped one grow to $130M—by breaking every "safe" rule. In this episode, we dive into what agency owners at the $1–5M mark can actually do to punch past the common growth ceilings. The most important shift? He stopped selling to job titles—and started selling to buyers with something to prove. ⏱…
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Season 8 | Ep40 Jamie Trevett on going all in on the US and shutting down his UK contracts business
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1:09:08Would you walk away from recurring revenue to chase a bigger opportunity overseas? On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Jamie Trevett, founder of Just Construction. Jamie was last on the show in 2022 when his UK construction recruitment firm had 25 staff and a growing contract book. Fast forward to today and Jamie has completely…
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Karl Sakas on Scaling Smart and Reclaiming Your Time
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46:07In this episode of the Digital Agency Growth podcast, I’m joined once again by agency advisor Karl Sakas. Karl breaks down the philosophy and practice behind his new book Calm the Chaos—a leadership guide for agency owners who want to scale smart, delegate more, and reclaim time. We also explore his writing process, the parallels between art collec…
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Season 8 | Ep39 Matt Tyson on two life-changing exits and the personal cost of chasing growth
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1:25:30What’s the point in building a business if you lose everything at home? On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Matt Tyson, founder of Knockout Consulting and former owner of two successful payroll companies. Matt has achieved what many founders dream of—two life-changing exits in 15 years. But behind the success was a personal cos…
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From Ozempic to Ad Strategy: Todd Gagne on GLP-1’s Ripple Effects
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19:53Today, I talk to Todd Gagne—tech founder, startup mentor, and the guy who accidentally dropped a viral bomb on Substack after a weekend rabbit hole about GLP-1 drugs. We talk about why these weight-loss medications might be as transformative as the air conditioner, what this means for advertising, and why the next few years could upend how we think…
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Season 8 | Ep38 Dan Grim on what top recruitment talent really wants and why most agencies miss the mark
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1:22:49Why most recruitment businesses fail to attract top-tier leadership talent On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Dan Grim, founder of Inside Recruitment. With 25 years in the industry and two previous equity partnerships under his belt, Dan now runs a solo rec-to-rec firm helping recruitment businesses hire the kind of leadership…
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Building Personal Brands That Actually Drive Leads
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40:59Join Dan Englander and Jared Gibson, co-founder of Outworks, as they dive into the future of B2B marketing and explain why personal branding is the most powerful growth engine for CEOs and founders. Discover why cold outreach is no longer enough, how authentic LinkedIn content can drive long-term trust and authority, and how busy executives can mak…
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Season 8 | Ep37 Why Martin Smith spends 90% of his time on what he's best at - BD and brand growth
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1:12:31Most recruitment founders try to do it all and burn out in the process. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Martin Smith, founder of Talent Group, who shares how he's structured his business to double down on what he's best at and handed over the rest. Martin runs TalentDrive and Talent Finance, with a 12-person team across the…
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Dan Englander on Trust-Based Outbound in 2025
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35:25In this solo episode, Dan shares an evolved perspective on outbound strategies for boutique agency owners. Reflecting on lessons from the "Right Words to the Right People" workshop and client campaigns since, this episode offers a practical, human-centered approach to outbound that respects your time and builds real pipeline—without sacrificing tru…
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Season 8 | Ep36 Philippa Smith on losing it all then scaling back to build a £1m+ EBITDA lifestyle agency
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1:15:02What happens when your 15-person agency runs out of cash and you have to start over from scratch? On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Philippa Smith, founder of Silver Swan Recruitment, a luxury staffing agency for ultra-high net worth individuals. After growing her team to 15, COVID and poor cash flow caught up with her. In Au…
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Season 8 | Ep35 How Levy Global is scaling post-MBO with a clear vision for growth and legacy
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1:24:40From recruiter to CEO and majority shareholder, Matt Murphy’s journey at Levy Global is nothing short of remarkable. Now, with Rory McGowan joining from Opus as COO, the business is entering what they call "Levy 2.0" - a new chapter focused on scale, structure, and serious wealth creation. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Ma…
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Chris DuBois - How to Craft Agency Offers That Work in 2025
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45:01Are your agency's services stuck in a tangle of complexity and custom work? In this episode, Dan Englander sits down with Chris DuBois—founder of Dynamic Agency OS and creator of the Snap Offer framework—to explore how agencies can simplify their offers, build authority, and grow through repetition, not reinvention. Chris shares how he went from in…
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Season 8 | Ep34 Jay Wynter on $1m billing for 7 years straight and leading Precision Sourcing’s largest and highest-performing team
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57:35What does it take to bill over $1 million a year for seven years straight, while leading the highest-performing team in your company? On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Jay Wynter, SAP Practice Lead at Precision Sourcing in Australia. From a tough start in recruitment to becoming a standout performer, Jay has built an elite bi…
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Erik J. Olson on Why Most Agencies Plateau and How to Build One That Grows Predictably
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1:03:22How do you grow a digital agency without getting stuck in feast-or-famine cycles or boxed in by a single niche? In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Dan Englander sits down with Erik J. Olson, CEO of Proxa and the force behind three specialized agencies under one umbrella. Erik walks us through his unconventional journey from civil…
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Season 8 | Ep33 Dan Moussa on growth, consulting skills and leading rec forward in the age of AI
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1:02:57What does growth really look like in 2025's recruitment market? For Dan Moussa, it means combining consulting skills, AI adoption and personal branding to move the industry forward. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I'm joined by Dan Moussa, founder of Talesca, a specialist recruitment business in Australia. Dan’s story is one of consisten…
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Audrey Kwan on How Micro Agencies Win Big: Niching, Community & the Power of Strategic Partnerships
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41:52What separates the agencies that consistently get referrals from those that don’t? According to Audrey Kwan, it comes down to trust equity. In this conversation, Dan Englander talks with Audrey consultant, community builder, and founder of Agency Together about how agencies can get off the feast-or-famine sales rollercoaster by building strategic p…
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Season 8 | Ep32 From cleaning to global recruiter - Leon Mitton on scaling with AI at the core
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1:02:48What does it take to go from running a cleaning business to founding a global recruitment firm? Leon Mitton shares how he launched Agnes Cole Consulting during COVID and is now using AI to drive scale and efficiency in a way few are even attempting. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Leon Mitton, founder of Agnes Cole Consulti…
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From Chaos to Clarity: How Top Agencies Are Planning for Uncertainty
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39:17In this episode, Dan Englander welcomes back Nick Petroski of Promethean Research for a high-signal, data-backed deep dive into the state of the digital agency industry in 2025. From agency size trends to the truth about AI integration, Nick reveals what the numbers really say. Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Fu…
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Season 8 | Ep31 Tom Warner on why he downsized his agency and now prefers building solo at a £500K+ run rate
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41:43What happens when scaling your recruitment business doesn’t bring success, but stress? Tom Warner opens up about the highs and lows of building GroTech and why going solo was the best decision he ever made. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Tom Warner, founder of GroTech, a specialist go-to-market recruitment agency for SaaS …
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How to Build an Agency Sales System That Won’t Break Your Soul (or Inbox)
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21:53What do you do when referrals dry up and the market gets shaky? In this solo episode, Dan Englander breaks down the key takeaways from his recent workshop: Implementing a Business Development System That Stands Up to Uncertainty. You’ll learn: Why reactive sales keeps you stuck in volatility How to shift to a proactive system that builds momentum T…
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Season 8 | Ep30 James Waissel on hitting £300K within 7 months as a rec agency founder
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1:06:08James Waissel set a modest goal of £125K in year 1 of launching his own agency. Instead, he ended up billing over £300K in revenue in just seven months. On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by James Waissel, founder and CEO of Huntsman Consult, a construction and real estate recruitment business based in London. James started the b…
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Season 8 | Ep29 Graham Cosgrave on growing MatchMedics by going niche and marketing to doctors worldwide
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1:06:45What happens when you go all-in on a niche? Graham Cosgrave shares how MatchMedics transformed from a traditional agency into one of Ireland’s leading medical recruitment brands by focusing solely on doctors. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I'm joined by Graham Cosgrave, Director at MatchMedics, a recruitment business specialising in pla…
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Building Trust and Scaling Through Thought Leadership with Drew McLellan
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39:50We're bringing back one of our most valuable episodes a conversation that’s just as relevant today as when it first aired. The agency world has seen plenty of change in recent years. But with that change comes opportunity — for evolution, adaptation, and leadership. In this episode, Drew McLellan joins us to talk about the current state of the agen…
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Season 8 | Ep28 From recruiter to founder at 25: Haseena Mooncey on building a global life sciences business
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1:05:08Starting a recruitment business at 25 with just three years of experience takes serious courage. Haseena Mooncey did exactly that – and she’s built something special. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I'm joined by Haseena Mooncey, co-founder of CHR Life Sciences, a modern boutique recruitment firm focused on niche roles across the UK, Ire…
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Jon Tsourakis on How to Build a High-Performing Agency
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48:34In a world of economic uncertainty, shrinking budgets, and longer sales cycles, how do smart agencies continue to grow? Jon Tsourakis, Co-Founder of Oyova, reveals how embracing discomfort, staying authentic, and focusing on fundamentals can transform your agency’s performance even in the hardest times. Watch our latest video training, How to Take …
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