Former NBA sharpshooter and Duke legend JJ Redick and his co-host Tommy Alter discuss the NBA, current events and interview some of the biggest names in the NBA, entertainment and political worlds. Launching from inside the NBA bubble, the show offers unprecedented access to the league while telling the stories of an eclectic rotating group of guests.
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JJ Redick of New Orleans Pelicans interviews some of the biggest names in basketball—including his teammates!—and many other celebrities. It’s an inside look at life in the NBA and conversations with people who interest Redick and his co-host, Tommy Alter, the most.
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Episode 222: Ray Allen (Plus a Tim Legler Draft)
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This week we’re incredibly excited to welcome NBA legend Ray Allen to The Old Man and the Three! Ray and JJ discuss so much, including Ray’s thoughts about youth basketball and coaching and what they miss most about being NBA players. Ray drops gems about what his mindset was around being a professional, leader, and how he approached practicing his…
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Episode 221: The Unsung Heroes of the Eastern and Western Conferences | OM3 THINGS with Tim Legler
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On this Monday’s episode of ‘The Old Man and the Three Things,’ JJ is joined by ESPN’s Tim Legler to share their current unsung heroes — their guys who deserve more recognition right now — in the NBA. JJ shares his from the Eastern Conference (Miles McBride, Josh Hart, Payton Pritchard), and Tim shares his from the Western Conference (Trey Murphy I…
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Episode 220: The Western Conference Playoff Battle Royale With Tim Legler. Plus, Jaime Jaquez Jr.
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We have a packed episode on this week’s ‘Old Man and The Three!’ JJ and Tommy open the show asking and answering some questions they have about possible play-in teams. Then, ESPN’s Tim Legler joins JJ to take a deep look at the Western Conference playoff picture, including if they think the OKC Thunder will be affected by their lack of playoff expe…
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Episode 219: We’re Out of Patience For the Phoenix Suns & The Mavs Are Thoroughly In the Mix | with Tim Legler
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On this Monday’s episode of ‘The Old Man and the Three Things,’ JJ Redick is joined once again by ESPN’s Tim Legler to discuss how the Phoenix Suns have run out of time to figure it out after a disappointing loss to the Milwaukee Bucks, how Luka Doncic, Kyrie Irving, and Dallas Mavericks are officially in the mix for Western Conference contention, …
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We are so psyched to finally welcome to the show, Phoenix Suns guard and superstar, Devin Booker. This is such a fantastic interview about Devin's journey in the NBA, what makes him motivated night in and night out and the state of this year's Phoenix Suns team. So much to cover so let's get to it! Topics include: JJ opens the show talking Lakers v…
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Listen Now: Alternate Routes with Trey Wingo and Kevin Frazier
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What if the NBA never vetoed the Chris Paul trade to the Lakers? What if the Seahawks ran the ball on the one yard line in the Super Bowl? Could a coin flip have landed Magic in Chicago, Michael in LA and made Charles Barkley the first Black President? Wait, what?!! Questions like these have broken the brains of sports fans since the beginning of t…
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Episode 217: Our First All-Defense Discussion, Giannis & Dame, and Luka’s Records | OM3 THINGS
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On this Monday’s Old Man and the Three Things, JJ Redick is joined once again by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. on ‘The Dunker Spot!’ This week they discuss NBA All-Defense for the first time this season and who their locks are right now, the current state of the Milwaukee Bucks and the Giannis and Dame pick-and-roll, and the recent record-setti…
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Episode 216: Jamal Mashburn (Plus a Josh Hart Draft)
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This week we are so excited to welcome NBA All-Star Jamal Mashburn (Dallas Mavericks, Miami Heat, Charlotte Hornets) to The Old Man and the Three! Mash was truly an amazing guest. He got into what he sees when watching today’s NBA and how he compares it to where the league was in the 1990s and 2000s. He also shared great stories about playing for R…
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Episode 215: The Greatness of Wemby, Jokic, and LeBron | OM3 THINGS
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On this Monday’s episode of ‘The Old Man and the Three Things,’ JJ Redick is joined by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of ‘The Dunker Spot’ for some in-depth breakdowns of the greatness we’ve been seeing recently from Victor Wembanyama, Nikola Jokic, and LeBron James. Let’s go! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privac…
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This week we’re extremely excited to welcome Cleveland Cavaliers big man Jarrett Allen for his first appearance on The Old Man and The Three! JJ and Tommy open up the episode by taking a look at the recent play of the Milwaukee Bucks, Boston Celtics, Miami Heat, and other Eastern Conference contenders to find out how likely each could make it out o…
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Episode 213: The Celtics Have Separated Themselves as the NBA’s Best Team, Plus Nuggets and Raptors Check-ins | OM3 THINGS
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It’s Monday so we’re back with another episode of The Old Man and the Three Things. This week, JJ is joined by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of ‘The Dunker Spot’ to discuss how the Nuggets look like the championship caliber versions of themselves again, how the Celtics are separating themselves as the best team in the league, and what the post-…
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Episode 212: The Home Stretch Mailbag: Doc Rivers, The Next Face of the NBA, and More
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In the first episode back after the All-Star break, JJ Redick and Tommy Alter open up the mailbag to answer a bunch of listener questions. First, JJ address everything that occurred on ESPN’s ‘First Take’ this week and everything surrounding Doc Rivers (head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks), Patrick Beverley, and Phoenix Suns star Kevin Durant. Then J…
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Episode 211: Here’s Our Three Teams to Watch Post All-Star Break | OM3 THINGS
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NBA All-Star weekend came and went. This Monday, JJ Redick is joined by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. on The Dunker Spot to share the three teams that they are most excited to watch in the second half of the season and why. Let’s go! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-no…
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Episode 210: Tyrese Haliburton: The Breakout Season Check-In
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We are very psyched to welcome in Tyrese Haliburton for the first time as an in-person guest on The Old Man and the Three. We get into so much with Tyrese and how he sees his season on The Indiana Pacers. Let's get to it. Topics include: JJ talks through the surging Golden State Warriors as they try to climb their way up the Western Conference ladd…
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Episode 209: Kawhi Leonard, the Cavs, and Brandon Miller Continue to Be Extremely Impressive | OM3 THINGS with Tim Legler
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It’s Monday so that means it’s time for The Old Man and the Three Things. JJ is joined once again by ESPN’s Tim Legler to discuss the MVP-level play of Kawhi Leonard, how the Cavs are the hottest team in the league, and how Brandon Miller is already showing he going to be a top talent in the NBA for a long time. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.…
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Episode 208: Luka Doncic Returns (Plus a Jalen Williams Check-In)
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We are so excited to welcome in Luka Doncic for a second time on the Old Man and the Three. Luka was gracious enough to spend about 50 minutes with us to talk all things Dallas Mavericks. We also have JJ giving his initial thoughts on the big trade deadline moves. And finally we do a check in with Jalen Williams of the Oklahoma City Thunder and (SI…
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Episode 207: Paolo Banchero 2 (Featuring Richard Jefferson)
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Orlando Magic star Paolo Banchero returns to The Old Man and the Three this week for another amazing interview! To star of the episode, JJ and RJ discuss the Phoenix Suns and New York Knicks. Paolo opens up about becoming more of a leader and improving all-around as player in his second year in the NBA with the help of advice from Coach K and Los A…
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Episode 206: Our Official NBA All-Star Reserves Picks for the East and West | OM3 THINGS
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On this week’s Old Man and the Three Things, JJ is joined by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of The Dunker Spot to pick their official (but unofficial) All-Star reserves picks for the Eastern and Western Conference. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.…
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Episode 205: Alperen Sengun (Featuring Trey Murphy III)
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This week we welcome Alperen Şengün, the young Turkish NBA star and center of the Houston Rockets. Alperen discusses his experience growing up playing basketball is Turkey and his relationship with past and present Turkish players in the league. He also shares what it means to him as being labeled as “Baby Nikola Jokic”,how he eventually want to mo…
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Episode 204: An In-Depth Breakdown of Celtics vs. Nuggets, the Climbing Cavs, and Dream Western Conference Playoff Matchups | OM3 THINGS with Tim Legler
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For this Monday’s Old Man and the Three Things, JJ is joined by Tim Legler to breakdown last Friday’s fantastic matchup between the Celtics and the Nuggets, what’s behind the Cavs recent winning streak, and what JJ and Tim’s dream matchup they’d want to see in the playoffs in the West. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California …
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We are extremely excited to talk with Franz Wagner in this episode of The Old Man and The Three. There's so much to get into so let's check out the topics. First, JJ and Tommy open up by remembering Golden State Warriors assistant coach Dejan Milojević. Our hearts go out to his family, friends, The Warriors and anyone who knew him. Our intro contin…
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Episode 202: Chet vs. Wemby for Rookie of the Year & Our Concern for the Lakers, Warriors and Suns | OM3 THINGS
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JJ is joined by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of The Dunker Spot for this Monday’s episode of The Old Man and the Three Things. This week they break down the debate of Chet vs Wemby for this season’s Rookie of the Year, and share their thoughts, concerns, and if there’s any possible solutions for the current state of the Suns, Lakers and Warrio…
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We are incredibly excited to share this interview with Portland Trail Blazers star Anfernee Simons. Ant is such a bright young talent in the NBA and we were so impressed by his mindset. Topics include: JJ and Tommy open with Western Conference odds and the Darko Rajaković rant on the referees after the Toronto Raptors vs. Los Angeles Lakers game. T…
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Episode 200: Sneaky Playoff Threats and What It's Like to be a Lose BIG in the NBA | OM3 THINGS w/ JJ and Tim Legler
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Welcome to our 200th episode of The Old Man and the Three! We're so thankful to all our fans for supporting the show. This week we have Tim Legler joining us to talk about his experience of being on one of the worst teams in NBA history. Then we talk about who has a legit shot to make a deep run in the playoffs from the middle tier teams (Dallas Ma…
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We are psyched to welcome back our friend from the Boston Celtics, Derrick White. Topics include: JJ talks about the three most disappointing teams in the NBA this season (Phoenix Suns, Golden State Warriors, Los Angeles Lakers) and who he actually believes in from that bunch, Derrick on JJ's obsession with him lol, his reaction to getting beat by …
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Episode 198: Three Bold NBA Predictions for 2024 | OM3 THINGS
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Happy New Year from The Old Man and the Three! In this Monday’s OM3 Things, JJ is joined by Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of The Dunker Spot to share three bold predictions that they think will happen in 2024. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.…
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Episode 197: The First 30 Games of The 2023-2024 NBA Season w/ Tim Legler and JJ Redick
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We are always psyched to welcome in our good friend Tim Legler to talk all things NBA. It's been roughly 30 games and we can start drawing some real analysis from this season. So what have we learned and what are we looking at for the rest of the season? Topics include: JJ on Derrick White playing like an NBA All Star, do the Philadelphia 76ers nee…
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Episode 196: Our Ideal NBA Christmas Day Games Lineup | JJ Redick and Tim Legler | OM3 THINGS
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Happy holidays from The Old Man and the Three! On this Monday's OM3 Things, JJ Redick and Tim Legler give a quick preview of the NBA on Christmas Day games before rearranging the schedule to make what they think would be the perfect slate of games if they could pick the teams and time slots themselves. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privac…
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We are so psyched to welcome in member of The Los Angeles Lakers, Austin Reaves. Austin was kind enough to give us 45 mins and we were able to cover so much. Without further ado... let's go. Topics include: JJ on the Coach of The Year race, Austin Reaves on adjusting to being a Los Angeles Laker, earning the trust of LeBron James, crushing the Memp…
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Episode 194: James Harden, Kawhi, and the Clippers Are On a HOT Streak, JJ Goes Off About Fouls, and a Rookie Check-in on Brandon Miller | OM3 THINGS
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Another Monday, another OM3 Things! Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of The Dunker Spot join JJ to break down why the Clippers have been the hottest team in the league over their last 14 games, deep-dive into how fouls and foul calls in today’s NBA compare to previous decades, and share their thoughts on Charlotte Hornets rookie Brandon Miller. Se…
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We’re excited to welcome 16-year NBA vet Eric Gordon to the pod this week! EG got into so much, including why he chose the Phoenix Suns, what makes Kevin Durant and Devin Booker’s relationship different from other superstars, his time playing with prime James Harden and those matchups against the Warriors on the Rockets (including the Game 7 with 2…
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Episode 192: What Anthony Davis and The Lakers Taught Us with their In-Season Tournament Win | OM3 THINGS with Tim Legler
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What an In-Season Tournament. Tim Legler and JJ Redick are here to break down the Lakers win starting with the big time play of Anthony Davis. In the first segment, JJ and Tim talk about the dominance of AD and LeBron James and what to expect from the Los Angeles Lakers for the rest of the year. Then the guys talk about the two most disappointing t…
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We are super psyched to welcome in JJ's former teammate and current member of The Boston Celtics. In this interview, KP opens up about a lot of things so be sure to tune in. We'll get right into it! Topics include: JJ breaks down the play of Tyrese Haliburton in the NBA In-Season Tournament. Then we welcome in Kristaps Porzingis to talk about the c…
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Episode 190: The Wolves, Thunder, and Pelicans: Who Do You Trust the Most? | OM3 THINGS
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On this Monday’s Old Man and the Three Things, JJ is joined by The Dunker Spot’s Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. to break down: how Giannis, Dame, and the Bucks have a new-found flow to the offense, debate if the Wolves, Thunder, or Pelicans pose the biggest threat in the West, and share what they’re looking forward to for the rest of the In-Seas…
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We are so psyched to welcome in Brooklyn Nets young star, Cam Thomas. This convo with Cam is just so fun and we're psyched to share this one with you all. Let's get to it. Topics include: JJ and Tommy talk about their excitement of the NBA In-Season Tournament and Cam Thomas' chances of winning Most Improved Player in a stacked group. They also tal…
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Episode 188: How Good the Suns Are with Devin Booker As Their Primary Ball Handler + Jalen Brunson is Elite | Tim Legler and JJ Redick | OM3 THINGS
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On this Monday’s Old Man and the Three Things, Tim Legler returns to the show with JJ to break down Devin Booker’s game-winner and how great the Suns offense looks, why it’s time to recognize that Jalen Brunson is an elite point guard, and the outstanding play and contributions from Heat rookie Jaime Jaquez Jr. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.c…
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Episode 187: An Early Season NBA Deep Dive with Tim Legler and Richard Jefferson
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We're thrilled to welcome Tim Legler and Richard Jefferson back on The Old Man and the Three this week. The guys get in-depth about so many different topics, including James Harden's career and what a successful future looks like for him, what a Post-LeBron and Post-Steph NBA looks like, who in the league currently has the realistic potential to be…
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Episode 186: De’Aaron Fox is GOOD, Dame and the Bucks Are Flowing, Plus How Do We Feel About the Heat and Knicks?
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It’s Monday, so that means we’re back with The Old Man and The Three Things. Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones Jr. of The Dunker Spot return to discuss with JJ the latest from the past week of NBA action, including how it seems Dame and the Bucks are figuring it out, checking in on how everyone feels about the Heat, Cavs, Knicks, Thunder, and Lakers, p…
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Episode 185: Tyrese Hailburton Mailbag: Nov 2023
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We are psyched to welcome in the OG correspondent, Tyrese Haliburton (The Indiana Pacers) to answer questions from our fans. First up, JJ talks about the likelihood of The Pacers breaking into the upper tier of The Eastern Conference contenders, then Tyrese joins to give praise to Tyrese Maxey of The Philadelphia 76ers and Jrue Holiday of The Bosto…
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Episode 184: The Wolves League-Leading Defense, The Sixers Are Finally Having Fun, and Love for…the Magic?! | OM3 THINGS
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Welcome to another episode of The Old Man and The Three Things. Steve Jones Jr. and Nekias Duncan of The Dunker Spot return this week to break down the Wolves having the best defense in the league and what they still need to figure out in the Karl-Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert, the vibe shift with the Sixers since the start of the season, and what …
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We are thrilled to welcome to the podcast, commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver. We were lucky enough to get 45 mins with Adam to talk through so many things surrounding the league. Let's get to it. Topics include: JJ and Tommy open up the pod talking about the first week of the In-Season Tournament. Then Adam joins the pod and we open up talking a…
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Episode 182: The Bucks Early Struggles + What Type Of Players Should The 76ers Trade For | Week 2 Takeaways | OM3 THINGS
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Welcome to another episode of The Old Man and The Three Things. This week on OM3 Things, we welcome in Steve Jones and Nekias Duncan of The Dunker Spot to talk about our big week 2 takeaways. First up, Nekias talks about "The Scottie Leap" and what he's seen from Scottie Barnes that's made him optimistic about this season for him and the Toronto Ra…
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We are so psyched to welcome one of our favorite players, Jalen Williams of the Oklahoma City Thunder. In this episode, we first dive deep into the James Harden trade and what it means for The Philadelphia 76ers and The Los Angeles Clippers. Then Jalen joins us and we have an incredible convo. Topics include: The Oklahoma City Thunder's sudden high…
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Episode 180: Reacting To Week 1 Of The NBA | Tim Legler and JJ Redick | OM3 THINGS
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Big news... The Old Man and The Three Things is now available on our main feed! We will be publishing every Monday with JJ and either Tim Legler or Steve Jones and Nekias Duncan of The Dunker Spot. We want to make this THE place for NBA sickos. On today's episode, we're joined by Tim Legler to talk about our Week 1 takeaways from this young NBA sea…
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Episode 179: The BIG Season Preview with Zach Lowe
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The NBA season starts today! And we are so psyched to welcome in NBA genius analysis Zach Lowe. Let's waste no time and get to it. Topics include: offseason trades of Damian Lillard to The Milwaukee Bucks to Jrue Holiday to the Boston Celtics, how much Zach believes in Chris Paul to The Golden State Warriors, how Bradley Beal helps Kevin Durant and…
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We are so psyched so welcome in agent, Rich Paul to The Old Man and The Three. Topics include: His memoir "Lucky Me: A Memoir of Changing the Odds" and why he decided to write it, Rich's upbringing and the lessons he learned from his neighborhood, how he came to represent so many athletes like LeBron James (The Los Angeles Lakers), Anthony Davis an…
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We are so psyched to welcome in Philadelphia 76ers guard, Tyrese Maxey today. Tyrese was such an awesome interview and we're really grateful that he sat down with us. Let's get to it. Topics include: JJ gives his take on the 76ers chances at a championship and Embiid's chances at MVP, then Tyrese comes on to talk about his new friendship with JJ (a…
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The coaching series is BACK and this week we're delighted to welcome in, Boston Celtics Head Coach, Joe Mazzulla. Joe was gracious enough to give us an hour of his time to cover all sorts of things. So without further ado, let's get into it. Topics include: JJ's thoughts on the tier 1 teams in The NBA including The Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Laker…
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Our guest this week is our neighbor on The Brooklyn Nets, Cam Johnson. It's not typical that such a young player has so much insight into the NBA. We're pumped for this episode so let's get into it. Topics include: The UNC North Carolina vs. Duke rivalry, Team USA's loss in the FIBA World Cup, what he learned from Monty WIlliams and why he thinks T…
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Episode 174: Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner
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We have an action packed episode of The Old Man and The Three with special guests Andre Iguodala (The Golden State Warriors) and Evan Turner of The Point Forward Podcast. This is a wildly entertaining episode so buckle up. Topics include: What white players like JJ do to get themselves pumped up before NBA games, the way the game has changed since …
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