Case closed on Watts. No new updates, but will revisit as needed. This episode if you care to hear about sometihing other than Watts; is about one of the most bizarre and chilling stories I've ever heard. If you are unaware/unfamiliar, on February 24th, 2020, Sarah Boone and Jorge Torres, a couple who lived together were supposedly playing around, …

It's now been 4 years since that dreaded morning. Like all terrible true crime tales one can wonder how things might have been averted. Was this just inevitable or was there something that could have stopped the Titanic from hitting the iceberg? One wonders how this lovely picture perfect family fell so far so fast and whether this was going to hap…

The Watts story from the beginning.Oleh Joy

In this very special episode I was joined by some incredible new friends and followers of the podcast. Thank you so much Romina, Faith, Drew, Erica, Susan and Marcy. It was great having you join!!!Oleh Joy

Part 2 of 2 Part Anniversary special commemorating the 3 years since the tragedy. Special guests join this episode where we discuss many aspects of this case and all aspects of this story.Oleh Joy

Part 1 of 3 Year Anniversary Part 2 Will be Released tomorrow. This episode includes special guests and friends including a longtime friend who was an investigator for over 20 years and has incredible insight and experience with similar crimes. we do a general overall discussion of the case.Oleh Joy

Please check out the upcoming 3 year anniversary episode to be released very soon. This is a very special and LONG episode where i have a few very special guests joining me in a very thorough conversation about the Watts case. This episode was initially meant to come out on August 13th to commemorate the anniversary of the Watts Tragedy, however th…

Breakdown of the Lifetime episode of Cellmates Secrets featuring who else??? Watts, of course. The episode depicts the perspective of those who got to know him behind bars and a snapshot of the man behind this infamous tragedy. Does it make you like him more/less? Does it make you more sympathetic towards him? Humanize him? Have compassion for him?…

There is a "5 page letter" circulating online which is allegedly writting by Chris. The recipient is unknown. The idea that any words, written or spoken by Chris are perceived as sacred or holy, as though he is unveiling some sort of great truth to be bestowed upon us makes me roll my eyes in the biggest way imagininable. In any case in this episod…

Had a great chat with Anita; another dedicated follower of the Watts case. We covered all the basics.Oleh Joy

A quick thank you to listeners of the podcast.Oleh Joy

When did Chris and Nicole first meet each other? We undersatnd the conventional story that they met through work in or around May/June 2018 so why is there an entry on the timeline search of NK's phone in 2017?Oleh Joy

There was a recent article published by the Daily Mail where former inmate in the Dodge Correctional facility (now released) was friendly with Chris and Chris supposedly confided in him sharing all kinds of details about NK as well as the "the big WHY" (as in why'd he do it?). Whether you believe his credibility or that of the article is up to you.…

According to several sources the 35C (post conviction relief attempt) has been cancelled. It's over and done! Whats next???? For weeks there had been talk of a 35C and a team of people on Team Chris to expose "the truth" (whatever that is) and find out what REALLY happened and get Chris's some overdue justice??? Why was the 35C cancelled? What's th…

I have heard people relentlessly go off on Nicole K. So much so that it almost felt as though people were more upset with her than Chris, who confessed (multiple times). Why??? Why is SHE perceived as somehow equally as bad, if not worse? Is she bad because people are certain she was involved and got off easy OR is it because they perceive her as a…

There is an ongoing effort to get Chris a 35C (post conviction relief). Numerous parties are vigorously working towards this potential reality. Is this what the world wants, needs, can even fathom???Oleh Joy

The majority of what I have seen, read and oberved points to clear and obvious pre-meditation, but I've never been certain of this. While I believe there was SOME plan ahead of time how far in advance this was seems somewhat debateable. On one hand all the signs point to a pre-set plan, but if that is indeed the case why such a mess???…

The kids went to the upscale dayschool Primrose Academy and after a 6 week Summer break were scheduled to return the morning of August 13th. They never showed up. A few people called up the school to address this. This raised alarm bells. Who called the Primrose Academy that morning and why???Oleh Joy

One of the creepest and most talked about aspects of this bizarre tragedy is the video displayed on next door neighbor Nate's secruity camera. It was a video from the show American Horror Story (Apocolypse). Was this simply a coincidence or a message from the beyond?Oleh Joy

Was Chris hiding a secret identity that no one was able to see? Why was it only AFTER the tragedy that there is the big reveal? Why is it no one came forward to say "knowing him one could have predicted this. There were obvious clues"? Was there ANY way for anyone within these families to have seen what was about to happen? Could anyone have interv…

This story seems to be a bottomless pit of theories, conspiracies, and scandal. There seems to be a new one born every day. One of these claims Chris is actually innocent and that the only person Chris murdered was Shanann, but did so heroically defending his kids from their mother who was supposedly "strung out on Oxy and booze". This NOT MY theor…

I have talked about this story for over 2 years and have had bent the ears of friends and family and anyone willing to listen! Today I welcome a longtime friend who I can talk about ANYTHING with. She is smart, insightful, interesting and hilarious. In the 20+years we've known each other this is just one of many great conversations that we normally…

Why do people sympathize with Chris? Even NOW? Why? Why are there those who give him the benefit of the doubt? Why are there those who know what he did and acknowledge it fully and still give him a bit of sympathy? Does he deserve this???Oleh Joy

There are no shortage of conspiarcy theories in this country and surrounding this case. It seems as though this will likely drag on for decades. It's a game of Clue or a whodone it even though we all know who did it!!! If you take the bait you can believe just about anything, as long as the person telling you is persuasive enough. What do YOU belie…

From only a few short hours after the murders Chris NOW had to meet with the Frederick police already inside his house thanks to the quick action of Nicole (Shanann's good friend) who was deeply concerned she had not heard from her friend and was unresponsive. From this point onward Chris had to put on a major game face and try desperately to conve…

What did Chris and Nicole talk about for almost 2 hours on that fateful night/morning??? More curious why doens't she remember what was discussed. Why does she refer to their conversation as less than memorable and instead explains it as "so much random stuff". To this I say really?Oleh Joy

Shanann and NK could NOT be more different. One was glamorous, while the other was outdoorsy and seemingly unconcerned with trivial things like material goods. Chris found both women very appealing for different reasons. While NK seemed to project confidence was she simply jealous of Shanann?Oleh Joy

This episode is not about Chris Watts, but just a quick thank you and shout out to everyone who has been kind enough to listen and all your feedback. It is sincerely appreciated. Thank you!!!Oleh Joy

Was Chris a monster? Was it all about a financial meltdown?Oleh Joy

Chris and Shanann HAD planned for a 3rd baby and both seemed very happy to be having a boy, though wanting something and then getting it can be two very different things. After learning his wife was expecting her 3rd child Chris realized his affair with Nicki would be in jeapardy. Was THIS the jenga piece that caused everything to come tumbling dow…

Chris HAD to get into Shannan's Lexus even BEFORE he went into his house to pretend he was looking for his wife. WHAT was in her car? Why was it SOOOOO urgent that he made this TOP priority to do this immediately upon arriving home??? He did this in full view of the police though no one SAW what he retrieved from the car. What was it and why did he…

Both Sandi Rzucek and Nicole Atkinson both seemed to have a very strong intuition that something criminal had happened. HOW did they know this? Was it just mothers intuition or a friend being a great friend???Oleh Joy

Would NK have gotten involved with Chris if her hadn't told her he and Shanann were separating? At which point, if any did she start to see through his lies?Oleh Joy

Chris loads a red plastic container of gasoline into his truck the morning he is loading up his family into his truck. Why did he do this???Oleh Joy

The Watt's had a bed in the basement of their house. Was Chris sleeping in this bed and why?Oleh Joy

In his interview with FBI Special Agent Graham Coder, CBI Agent Tammy Lee and Frederick Police Department Detective Dave Baumhover Chris reveals one of THEE most chilling details of the crime.Oleh Joy

Were Chris and Shanann headed for divorce? Was the trip to NC a trial separation or just a summer vacation?Oleh Joy

Part 4 and final part of the summary of the Netflix DocumentaryOleh Joy

Part 3 of 4 part summary of Netflix DocumentaryOleh Joy

2nd of 3 part summary of the Netlfix Documentary. Of course the Netflix doc. was done in 1 piece, but for the sake of the podcast not being too long i divided up into 3 parts. I will post part 3 soon!Oleh Joy

Part 1 of a 4 part summary of the Netflix documentary covering all the details.Oleh Joy

Since day 1 people have insisted NK was not only involved, but was the mastermind, was there that night and made sure this all went down. Fact or fiction?Oleh Joy

This is the alleged emotional conversation between Chris and Shanann after he woke her up just 2 hours after she got home and returned from her trip.Oleh Joy

Poor Bella lovingly sings to her father who she considers her hero. Too Sad!Oleh Joy

Shanann saw the writing on the wall. She suspected an affair, but was 15 weeks pregnant and did NOT want her marriage to crumble. She would do anything to save it and tried desperately to get through to him, but sadly he had already decided he was done and the wheels were in motion.Oleh Joy

Chris actually said to he woke up that morning that something had been implanted, like he just knew it was going to happen and there was nothing he could have done to stop it from happening. Is this POSSIBLE??? As nuts as it sounds he genuinely appeared to not just love but absoutely adore his kids. So was he just faking all of that??? Even if was …

Chris asks his friend Jeremy if his teenage daughter, Mckenna can babysit the kids the saturday night before the murders.Oleh Joy

Chris tried very hard to maintain that these murders were spontaneous and the result of rage triggered by witnessing Shanann murder his beloved children. But there are multiple examples of things that debunk this claim, one of THEE most peculiar is a photo of a doll that Chris texted Shanann which appeared to be an image of a female corpse with a s…

While most people in the Watts orbit abandoned Chris early on, his friends Nick and Amanda Thayer faithfully stood by Chris and supported him. They just could NOT believe that the Chris they knew all that time was a killer. They were convinced it was just fake news and Chris was getting a raw deal. They even had him stay overnight in their house wh…

Nicole Kessinger deleted all of her text messages, was on the phone with Chris 111 mintes the night of the murders but doesn't remember what they talked about for almost 2 hours and her phone pinged in Frederick, CO (where Chris lived) at 6:16am. Conspiracy or no is really THAT hard to imagine she had at least a slight involvement???…