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We are back for 2020 with a new episode, a new name and a new and larger collective to bring you further conversations about the state of anthropology and what it has to tell us in the twenty-first century. In this episode, we present a conversation between Timothy and Michael M.J. Fischer recorded at the Society for the Social Studies of Science 2019 conference in New Orleans. Dr Fischer is Professor of Anthropology and Science and Technology Studies at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the author of several books including 'Anthropological Futures' (Duke University Press, 2009) and, most recently, 'Anthropology in the Meantime' (Duke University Press, 2018). He conducts fieldwork in the Caribbean, Middle East, South and Southeast Asia and writes on an extensive range of topics including anthropological methods and the anthropology of biosciences, media circuits, and emergent forms of life. To find out more, visit his faculty website at https://anthropology.mit.edu/people/faculty/michael-fischer Conversations in Anthropology is a podcast about life, the universe, and anthropology produced by David Boarder Giles, Timothy Neale, Cameo Dalley, Mythily Meher and Matt Barlow. This podcast is made in partnership with the American Anthropological Association and supported by the Faculty of Arts & Education at Deakin University. Find us at https://conversationsinanthropology.wordpress.com or on Twitter at @AnthroConvo