Episode 127 | "You Can't Say That Word" (Feat. Dr. John Cordle)

Permission To Speak Freely

About Our Guest:

Dr. John Cordle is a retired Navy Captain with 30 years of service. He commanded two Navy warships, USS Oscar Austin (DDG 79) and USS San Jacinto (CG 56). He was the 2010 recipient of the Navy League John Paul Jones Award and the BUMED (Bureau of Medicine and Surgery) Epictetus Award for Innovative and Inspirational Leadership, and the 2019 ASNE (American Society of Naval Engineers) Solberg Award Winner for his research in the area of Crew Endurance and Human Systems Engineering.

About The Episode:

Human Factors Engineer and Retired Navy Captain Dr. John Cordle joins Damo and Tish. John begins the conversation by explaining where his LinkedIn title, “Prolific Disruptive Thinker,” comes from. He discusses how the book “Black Officer, White Navy,” and his relationship with its author, Reuben Keith Green, impacted his outlook on Diversity. John deeply dives into beards and why he feels the current beard policy negatively impacts African American Sailors. John discusses his efforts to introduce the Circadian Rhythm to the Navy and the issues that servicemembers have regarding sleeping. Does anyone remember the “operational pause” that happened due to the collisions in 2017? John details the concept of a “Pirate Ship” and the benefits of prioritizing rest in the command’s plan of the day. The GAO Report is revisited. Can the “fix-it” mentality negatively impact a SME? Whatever happened to adding “respect” as a Navy core value? Dr. Cordle talks about his campaign for the USS Stennis to be renamed and why a namesake can be so important to a ship’s crew. These and more topics are covered in this episode. Remember to follow the ‘Permission to Speak Freely’ podcast on TikTok, Facebook, Discord, Instagram, and Twitter, and subscribe on YouTube.

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Links and more from the episode:

Article: “It’s Time For the Navy to Allow Sailors on Shore Duty To Have Short Trimmed Beards” by Dr. John Cordle - https://www.navytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2022/04/16/its-time-for-the-navy-to-allow-sailors-on-shore-duty-to-have-short-trimmed-beards/

Article: “Captain, Gets Some Sleep!” by Dr. John Cordle - https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2019/february/captain-get-some-sleep

Article: “Op-Ed: It's Time to Add Respect as a Core Navy and Marine Corps Value” by Dr. John Cordle - https://maritime-executive.com/editorials/op-ed-it-s-time-to-add-respect-as-a-core-navy-and-marine-corps-value

Article: “R-E-S-P-E-C-T: Find Out What It Means To Me” by Dr. John Cordle - https://blog.usni.org/posts/2022/03/22/r-e-s-p-e-c-t-find-out-what-it-means-to-me

Article: “The Case for Renaming the USS John C. Stennis” by Lieutenant Commander Reuben Keith Green, U.S. Navy (Retired) - https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/june/case-renaming-uss-john-c-stennis

Book of the Week:

Black Officer, White Navy (Reuben Green) - https://goodreads.com/book/show/38320012-black-officer-white-navy

Additional Credits:

PTSF “Theme Music” - Produced by Lim0