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Buzz Burrell and Zoë Rom team up to bring you a lively mix of trail topics, stories and real runner questions. Whether you’re an experienced ultrarunner or newly “trail curious” and just getting started in the sport, start your run with UltraSignUp…and meet us at The Trailhead!
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A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as ou ...
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Delivering in-depth conversations with interesting characters from the world of outdoor sports, the Salomon Après-Hour Podcast is brought to you by Salomon, the brand that encourages and enables people to play outside.
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No matter what his Wikipedia entry says, everyone in the world knows that Kilian Jornet is the greatest. We were so lucky to interview this legend about all his life's adventures, including his most recent feat with the Alpine Connections, in which he traversed all 82 peaks of 4,000 meters or more in the Alps, doing it in 19 days while covering ove…
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1:00 Buzz and Zoë discuss the intersection of trail running and alpinism, and how runners can stay safe when seeking high adventure. 14:00 Zoë interviews Kilian Jornet about his Alpine Connections Project, where he linked 82 peaks in under 20 days entirely under his own power. Kilian unpacks how he trained for his epic alpine adventure, and why he …
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We love music and we love ultrarunning and this episode is a perfect intersection of those two things. From touring with Katy Perry and playing for Kelly Clarkson to starring on this season of The Voice, Kyle Whalum, Brad Sample, and Caleb Gilbreath are friends, professional musicians, and self-proclaimed running nerds who set out to train for, and…
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We wanted to make sure we covered everything you needed to know about running this week, and that means considering what archaeologists will think of our 10-foot-tall skeleton decorations when they're unearthed 5,000 years from now. We also get a recap of the Baltimore Running Festival from the overall winner, Under Armour athlete Willy Fink, who r…
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Look, everything in Chicago was great, especially the Chicago Marathon and the big group of running raccoons wearing Believe singlets as they chased down their goals over 26.2 miles. The epic shakeout run was also pretty rad. But we're just saying that maybe deep dish isn't for us and that tavern pizza is mid. The dogs ruled, though. Unsurprisingly…
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00:00:53 Buzz and Zoë chat through advice they wish they had gotten when they first started running, and advice for new and aspiring trail and ultrarunners. 00:8:53 Zoë interviews Randi Zuckerberg (yes, that Zuckerberg!) about how she went from running a half marathon, to signing up for the Cocodona 250 in a year. Plus, they dive into what it means…
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Chicago is here and Berlin toenails are gone, dragon skulls are real, and we wax nostalgic about fishbones in beer and Mayor McCheese and also tarantula smuggling. Just another week for the gang of The Drop. We also cover the upcoming Mizuno Rebellion Pro Beta.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTOur go-to supplement for before, during, and after the Berlin Ma…
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It's actually unreal that we're giving the head of the #widefootfam the space to speak his mind for episode 300, but sometimes the planets align for the most average people. Just kidding, we love Jarrett and know how much all the wide foot runners out there love him too. We dig into his running story, which mostly involves his love of donuts and Co…
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They say to give gold on the 50th anniversary, but we decided to get it instead. This is our recap of the 50th Berlin Marathon, a weekend filled with everything that makes running golden: community events, shoe releases, friends gained along the way, hardships and victories. We came away with a deeper appreciation and respect and gratitude for all …
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With some great updates to the Hyperion line and the release of the Brooks Glycerin Max, we think it's safe to say that Brooks is back. Today's guest, Carson Caprara, had a big hand in that as he oversaw the efforts in footwear over the past couple years, and the fruits of that labor are starting to pay off. None of us hold anything back as we talk…
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The Berlin Marathon is just a couple days, and technically we're already there, but we're still back in Baltimore for this episode of the podcast. We keep it weird with our running updates and our discussion on Thomas and Robbe's shared fear of ears, while throwing in some industry talk on account of Nike's shakeup in leadership. We also give some …
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Thomas and Robbe sit down and chat with Patrick Nava, Global Vice President of Product Management Running at Adidas, about all things running at Adidas, including everything that went into the development of the all-new Adios Pro 4 and the Evo Pro 1. Another good one for all the shoe geeks out there.…
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This week on the podcast, shoe reviewer Alex joins us to talk about his trip to Austria and the Adidas Terrex Infinite Trails 46K race. Then we dive into our own running, along with spectating cross-country, a deep-dive on soft pretzels, how to make a special Dr. Pepper beverage, and the adventures of Robbe’s 20-miler. Finally, we discuss the Brook…
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1:00 Buzz and Zoë break down their favorite moments in ultra running history, from historic race performances to establishing new routes and FKTs. 14:20 Coach, writer, and podcaster David Roche discusses his record-breaking win at the 2024 Leadville 100, diving into his training, shooting his shot, and why ultra runners are getting so much faster. …
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On this special in-studio episode of The Drop, Thomas and Meg chat with Paul Lang, ASICS global senior product manager. Go behind the scenes of what it's like to work for one of the biggest brands in running, how development and supply chains work, and what it's like figuring out consumer wants and buyer demands. Definitely a good one for all the i…
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In this episode, we recap our weekend performances at the Charles Street 12-Miler, our de facto tune-up race for Berlin. Meg crushed it, Robbe barely made it, Karl also showed up big, and Thomas– well, he's back, folks (mostly). We also talk about some new Diadora gear and the Fila Float Maxxi 2 Pro, a Brazilian model that's kinda hot... for a shoe…
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We figured this week is as good as any to give you our favorite max cushion shoes of the year, but before we do, we talk about the curse on Thomas and how to break it, Keira D'Amato's 20K championship win, UTMB, and seriously– people need to recognize the greatness of the Paralympics. Looking to run sub-4 at the Chicago Marathon? Run with Robbe and…
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0:55 Zoë and Buzz discuss Buzz’s recent travels around Europe, and why running is such a great way to explore new places. 10:55 Zoë interviews Dr. Jeffrey Hammond, a podiatrist who works with professional athletes to troubleshoot common foot problems. They discuss how runners can prevent common ailments like plantar fascitis, Achilles tendonitis, a…
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You run a race, you finish, and then it's a memory. If it's a goal race, you probably want to remember that memory, and that's where MarathonFoto comes in. So much goes into getting you those photos, so we dive in and ask Brad and Conor how the race day orchestration works. By the end of this convo you'll have a much deeper appreciation for everyth…
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It's a whole lot of supernova talk on today's episode, with both the Adidas Supernova Prima and the Oasis reunion and what goes on when you're stuck in space for eight months. We also get Thomas's take on Alien: Romulus, and Robbe goes full Encyclopedia Brown in solving The Case of the North Carolina License. Enjoy! Looking to run sub-4 at the Chic…
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Things don't stop around here, as we're in the throes of fall marathon training. Meg goes full emo and bleeds herself dry for the long run (thanks to some hardcore chafing), Robbe heads for the hills of Pennsylvania to take down some carny clowns, and Thomas goes full voodoo doll with his dry needling regimen. And then there's the Puma MagMax, a sh…
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1:20 Buzz and Zoë break down the post-Olympics hype, and discuss whether or not trail running should be an Olympic sport, and what it would mean to see trail elevated to the world stage. 14:32 Zoë interviews Vic Thasiah, founder and President of Runners For Public Lands. They discuss why Vic founded RPL and what all runners can do to better protect…
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We've interviewed transcontinental runners like the legendary Mike Wardian, but this is a first. Cameron Balser is an ultrarunner and Mount to Coast athlete who recently finished a nearly year-long journey running the perimeter of the United States, averaging nearly 40 miles a day over that time, entirely self-supported. We talk about the challenge…
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Dreams do come true, folks. The team headed to Paris last week, so we decided to check out some of the local events, like the Olympic Games. There was dancing and cheering and food and drinks. Group runs galore, where Robbe wore his Legionnaire to the Louvre, a modern art masterpiece if there ever was one. It was truly an amazing experience and we'…
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This is a super special episode of The Drop, as Thomas and Meaghan interview the dynamic duo of Deena and Andrew Kastor. Deena won bronze in the marathon distance at the 2004 Olympic Games and held the American women's record in the distance from 2006 to 2022. Andrew is the head coach of the Mammoth Track Club and also coaches Meg and Thomas! We ta…
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We may never achieve the same level of fame as the Star Wars kid, but we're doing our best. If you like mindless entertainment, then you'll enjoy this episode as we cover Thomas's latest Instagram purchase for Meg, right before recapping some of our favorite Olympic moments. Then we dive into the Brooks Ghost Max 2. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Lagoon Pil…
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1:02 Buzz and Zoë break down the differences between trail running in the US and Europe and why the trails in Europe are so awesome (read: hard). 18:57 Zoë talks to Mario Mendoza, a professional trail runner and pastor from Bend, about growing up on an avocado farm, falling in love with the outdoors at a young age, and balancing work, training and …
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Professional skier Drew Petersen had everything he could want in life, but inside, he was falling apart. He finally found help and turned his life around and has committed himself to helping others do the same. This was a really great talk about mental health, the struggles that many of us deal with, and the light that comes when we realize we're n…
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Summer GRIT has officially come to a close, so we highlight some of the top performances from this year's participants. We also talk about our own summer running, which we're kind of over with at this point. Also, a hotel that recreates sound machine environments should probably be a thing if someone wants to do that. We also talk about the New Bal…
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The Olympics start tonight and we're ready for all the action (especially since we'll be there in a week and a half). But first, we discuss all the important things– drinking hotel tap water, conjuring up Bloody Mary, and gambling in Niagara Falls. Also, our thoughts on the Nike Pegasus Plus. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Lagoon PillowsGet the best night o…
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A walking encyclopedia of run knowledge, Joe Rubio is the co-founder of Running Warehouse, our go-to place for all things running shoes and gear. We were out in California recently and stopped by their warehouse for a rare, in-studio interview. We cover a wide range of topics, from youth run culture to running shoe history to hot takes on various r…
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Hosts Zoë Rom and Buzz Burrell discuss the rise of races that are 200 miles and longer, why different running goals are valid, and what draws us to different events. 14:20 Zoë interviews the winner of the 2024 Cocodona 250, Rachel Entrekin, about how she approaches multi-day races and balances training with work and life (or doesn't!). They discuss…
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We're halfway through GRIT and things seem to be getting hotter, including our takes on some things running and everything else. Speaking of hot, we test out some hot sauces on this week's episode of the shoe, and also reveal the location of the world's best urinal. After all that, we'll give our thoughts on the Hoka Mach X 2. Check out Black Eyed …
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00:49:47 Hosts Buzz Burrell and Zoë Rom discuss why the Western States Endurance run is getting so dang fast, and talk about why the Hardrock Endurance Run (which is not a race!!) attracts high caliber athletes and adventurers year after year. 14:54:35 Zoë Rom chats with Courtney Dauwalter about her historic triple last year, winning WSER, Hardrock…
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We're all back together! The gang recaps their time at Western States and the incredible Summer GRIT kickoff party. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!Lagoon PillowsGet the best night of sleep with Lagoon Pillows. We do. You can save 15% off your first order with code BELIEVE. ➡ ⁠⁠lagoonsleep.com/believe⁠⁠CheribundiTart Cherries are the most antioxidant rich sup…
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Live from Western States, Thomas chats with Tim Tollefson of Freetrail, ultrarunner and legend in both the road running and trail space. We talk about the race, reflecting on struggles and challenges and opportunities, and the state of running in general.Subscribe to The Drop weekly email💧 ➡ http://bit.ly/THEDROPListen to The Drop weekly podcast, w…
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Unsurprisingly, it's been a whirlwind of a week as half the team heads out to the Broken Arrow Sky Race in Olympic Valley, while Meg went for it at the Women's Classic 5K here in Baltimore. Also, the Asics Superblast 2 came in for testing, so we give our first thoughts on what may be the most anticipated shoe of 2024. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!Lagoon Pi…
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00:00:54 Hosts Zoë Rom and Buzz Burrell discuss their connection to the Western States Endurance Run and why it’s a rising tide for trail running. 12:58:00 Zoë Rom talks to pro ultrarunner Ryan Montgomery about how he embodies pride all year long, and how his patient approach to training has paid off in his running career, and his hopes for Western…
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