A course in interdisciplinarity by Mario Veen. In each episode I travel through Plato's Allegory of the Cave together with a guide. Together, we examine the question of what it means to learn, grow and develop in life on earth. We do so from a new perspective every time. You can use this course to study whatever interests you through the lens of philosophy, film, art, physics, spirituality and many more. All you need is the willingness to think things through and the openness to have your pr ...
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Episode 49 - Everyday Activism with Chris Julien
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We discuss Chris Julien's new book Everyday Activism (Alledaags Activisme). Chris is an activist and researcher, he is a PhD candidate at Utrecht University, where he works on ecological governance with an emphasis on new materialisms and decolonial ecology. He has an independent practice at the intersection of ecology and culture and is a spokespe…
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Episode 48 - Geocentric Worldview with Marcia Bjornerud
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We discuss Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks by Marcia Bjornerud. Marcia Bjornerud is a professor of Environmental Studies and Geosciences at Lawrence University. She is a contributing writer to The New Yorker, Wired, The Wall Street Journal, and the Los Angeles Times and the author of Reading the Rocks, Timefulness, and Geop…
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Episode 47 - Sad Planets with Dominic Pettman
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Dominic Pettman is University Professor of Media and New Humanities at the New School, and the author of numerous books on technology, humans, and other animals. We discussed his books Infinite Distraction and Peak Libido in episode 10. His book Telling the Bees comes out later this year. In this episode, we discuss Sad Planets by Dominic Pettman a…
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Episode 46 - Finding your Climate Path with Petra Verdonk
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dr.Petra Verdonk is an occupational and health psychologist and works as an associate professor at the department of Ethics, Justice and Humanities at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam. In her research and teaching she focuses on gender and diversity in health and care. She has long-term experience with research and projects in the field of gender (…
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Episode 45 - Value in the Metacrisis with Zak Stein
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Dr. Zachary Stein is a founding team member at the Civilizational Research Institute. He was trained at the interface of philosophy, psychology, and education, and now works in fields related to the mitigation of global catastrophic risk. He is a widely sought after and award winning speaker, and a leading authority on the future of education and c…
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Hoe Plato je uit je grot sleurt boektrailer (Dutch)
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Bestel hier: https://noordboek.nl/boek/hoe-plato-je-uit-je-grot-sleurt/ (Song ceated using Udio)Oleh Mario Veen
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Episode 44 - World-Changing Organisms with Stephen Porder
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Stephen Porder is the Associate Provost for Sustainability and Acacia Professor of Ecology, Evolution and Organismal Biology and Environment and Society at Brown University in the United States. His research publications explore tropical rainforest ecology, the impacts of intensive agriculture on people and the environment, and the potential for la…
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Episode 43 - Intergenerational Trauma with Inez Schelfhout
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My book about Plato's allegory of the cave is now available for pre-order: https://noordboek.nl/boek/hoe-plato-je-uit-je-grot-sleurt/ Inez Schelfhout is a clinical psychologist and psychotherapist who specializes in the impact of war on next generations. So intergenerational effects and intergenerational trauma. Inez works at the ARQ Center '45 and…
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Episode 42 - The Soul's Task on Earth with Dorita Sleur
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Dorita Sleur has been a spiritual teacher and guide for more than 20 years. She works with people tot become aware of the influence of Light in their lives. In her work, the Light creates balance in every area. If we learn to live from the light, the world will look different. We discuss Dorita's book The Soul's Task On Earth, which is available he…
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Episode 41 - Climate Biology with Fabian Ercan
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Dr Fabian E.Z. Ercan is a broadly interested (climate) biologist who does not shy away from broader discussions concerning natural sciences, philosophy, engineering and history. The dimension of time plays an important role in biology, ecology and climate and in the resulting science of paleoecology. Fabian combines these disciplines in his field o…
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Episode 40 - The Climate Health Crisis with Margarita Vossen
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Margarita Vossen is a medical doctor who has worked in several areas in medicine, both in the Netherlands and abroad (Zambia, Lesvos and Moldova). Currently she is working as a general practitioner in the south of the Netherlands. She is an ambassador for the 'Dutch Green Healthcare Alliance' (Groene Zorg Alliantie) and member of 'The Green General…
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Episode 39 - On Disinformation with Lee McIntyre
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I interview Lee McIntyre about On Disinformation: How to fight for truth and protect democracy, available from MIT Press. Lee McIntyre is a Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and a recent Lecturer in Ethics at Harvard Extension School. He holds a B.A. from Wesleyan University and a Ph.D. in Phil…
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Episode 38B - Money Creation with Anne Kervers (Part 2)
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Anne Kervers is a PhD candidate in political theory at the University of Amsterdam. She researches the political dimensions of money creation in relation to the climate finance gap. Previously she worked at Triodos Bank and completed studies in sustainability, economics, applied ethics and cultural analysis. Anne practices civil disobedience with E…
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Episode 38A - How to Block a Freeway with Anne Kervers (Part 1)
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Anne Kervers is a PhD candidate in political theory at the University of Amsterdam. She researches the political dimensions of money creation in relation to the climate finance gap. Previously she worked at Triodos Bank and completed studies in sustainability, economics, applied ethics and cultural analysis. Anne practices civil disobedience with E…
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Episode 37 - Technics and Time (Stiegler) with Daniel Ross
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Daniel Ross obtained his doctorate from Monash University in 2002. He is the author of Violent Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2004) and Psychopolitical Anaphylaxis: Steps Towards a Metacosmics (Open Humanities Press, 2021 -free to download). He is also the co-director with David Barison of the feature documentary The Ister (rent or buy on V…
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Episode 36 - The Natural Contract (Serres) with Aldo Houterman
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We discuss Michel Serres' 1990 book The Natural Contract. Our mountain guide through Plato's Cave and the philosophy of Michel Serres is Aldo Houterman. Aldo teaches Medical Ethics and Philosophy at the Amsterdam University Medical Center and is doing his PhD research at the ESPRIT center for sports, integrity and transition at the Erasmus Universi…
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Episode 35 - Rights of Nature with Jessica den Outer
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Jessica den Outer has a Bachelor degree in international & European law and a Master degree in international environmental law. She has been advocating for the Rights of Nature and the interests of future generations since 2017 and received several awards for her work. In 2019, she was recognised as one of the youngest Earth-centered law experts wi…
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Episode 34 - Universities in the Climate Crisis with Aaron Thierry
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Dr.Aaron Thierry has a background ecological scientist, science communicator and environmental campaigner. He received his original PhD in Ecology from the University of Sheffield and went on to a position as a postdoc on a project researching climate feedbacks in the Arctic. Aaron subsequently left academia to focus his efforts on environmental ac…
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Episode 33 - Environmental Philosophy with Yogi Hendlin
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Dr. Yogi Hale Hendlin is an environmental philosopher and public health scientist. Hendlin is assistant professor at the Erasmus School of Philosophy, and core faculy of the Dynamics of Inclusive Prosperity Initiative at Erasmus University Rotterdam, as well as research associate in the Environmental Health Initiative at the University of Californi…
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Episode 32 - Climate Science Rebellion with Ernst-Jan Kuiper
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Ernst-Jan Kuiper obtained his Master's degree in Climate Physics In 2014, after which he focused on research into the dynamics of the Greenland ice sheet. After 5 years, including 6 weeks of fieldwork on the Greenland ice sheet, he obtained his doctorate (PhD) in 2019. Ernst-Jan currently works at Milieudefensie on the appeal against oil giant Shel…
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Episode 31 - How to Talk to a Science Denier with Lee McIntyre
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Lee McIntyre is a philosopher and a scholar of science denial. He is a Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and a recent Lecturer in Ethics at Harvard Extension School. Lee is the author of many books for MIT Press, I will just mention three now. In The Scientific Attitude (2019), Lee argues that …
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Episode 30 - Henri Bergson’s Philosophy with Jeanne Proust
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Jeanne Proust has studied Humanities, Philosophy and Visual Arts in Bordeaux, Berlin, and Paris. She has been teaching Philosophy for the last 12 years in the US. Her PhD dissertation (Université Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne) focused on the pathologies of the willpower, both in philosophical and psychological perspectives, but her interests are wide: …
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Episode 29 - Philosophy of Science with Rani Lill Anjum
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Rani Lill Anjum is a philosopher at the Norwegian University of Life Sciences (NMBU), working in philosophy of science and medicine. She leads the Centre for Applied Philosophy of Science (NMBU CAPS), together with Yevgeniya Tomkiv. Her expertise is in the philosophy of causality, complexity, probability and risk, and other philosophical biases in …
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Episode 28 - Medical Education with Lara Varpio
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Our guide through Plato's Cave and medical education is Lara Varpio. Dr. Lara Varpio is Professor of Pediatrics at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Philadelphia and the Co-Director of Research in Medical Education at The Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. She started these positions in 2022, after serving for 9 years at the Un…
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Episode 27 - Michel Serres’ Philosophy with Aldo Houterman
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Our mountain guide through Plato's Cave and the philosophy of Michel Serres is Aldo Houterman. Aldo teaches Medical Ethics and Philosophy at the Amsterdam University Medical Center and is doing his PhD research at the ESPRIT center for sports, integrity and transitionat the Erasmus University in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. His book 'We are our body…
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Episode 26 - Dealing with Collapse with Chris Julien
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Chris Julien mixes research and practice in the fields of public innovation, theory and culture, with a focus on ecology and epistemology. He is currently pursuing a PhD at Utrecht university that combines new materialisms and eco-thinking to constitute a field of so-called ‘ecological governance’. Furthermore, he is active in Extinction Rebellion …
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Episode 25 - Conversation Analysis with Mike Huiskes
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Mike Huiskes is professor of Language and Social Interaction at the University of Groningen in The Netherlands. His work focuses on social interaction as an embodied phenomenon in both mundane and professional settings. His studies topics like intersubjectivity, epistemics and action coordination. Currently, his work focuses on learning and teachin…
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Episode 24 - Extinction Rebellion with Hannah Prins
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Hannah Prins is a climate activist and studies criminal law and international law in Amsterdam. She is active in the Extinction Rebellion Legal Circle and is passionate about protecting the right to demonstration. Sources:Merchants of Doubt documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ii9zGFDtc Oreskes, Naomi; Conway, Erik M. (2010). Merchants of…
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Episode 23 - How Science Works with Vincent Icke
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If the idea in society about how science works does not match how it actually works, how can society provide the optimal conditions for science? Vincent Icke is Professor of theoretical Astrophysics at Leiden University, where he founded the Astronomy Theory Group, and Professor of Cosmology at the University of Amsterdam in The Netherlands. His ma…
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Applied Philosophy for Health Professions Education - Megan Brown, Mario Veen & Gabrielle Finn
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The book Applied Philosophy for Health Professions Education by Megan Brown, Mario Veen and Gabrielle Finn considers the practical application of philosophical concepts to teaching, learning, and research, covers philosophical concepts such as Stoicism and Practical Wisdom, and includes practice points for educators within each chapter of the book.…
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Episode 22 - World-Centered Education with Gert Biesta
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We discuss World-Centered Education by Gert Biesta. Gert Biesta (gertbiesta.com/) is Professor of Public Education in the Centre for Public Education and Pedagogy, Maynooth University, Ireland, and Professor of Educational Theory and Pedagogy at the Moray House School of Education and Sport, University of Edinburgh, UK, where he is also deputy head…
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Episode 21 - Image-Thinking & Travelling Concepts with Mieke Bal
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We discuss Image-Thinking: Artmaking as Cultural Analysis by Mieke Bal. Mieke (www.miekebal.org) started as a literary scholar. Her commitment is to interdisciplinary approaches to cultural artifacts and their potential effects. She focuses on gender, migratory culture, psychoanalysis, and the critique of capitalism. Mieke published 45 books and cu…
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Episode 20 - Being Better Earthlings with Marcia Bjornerud
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Marcia Bjornerud is Professor of Geology and Environmental Studies at Lawrence University in Appleton. Her research focuses on the physics of earthquakes and mountain-building, and she combines field-based studies of bedrock geology with quantitative models of rock mechanics. Marcia was named Outstanding Educator in 2011 by the Association of Women…
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Episode 19 - Love and/of Philosophy with Jeanne Proust
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Jeanne Proust has studied Humanities, Philosophy and Visual Arts in Bordeaux, Berlin, and Paris. She has been teaching Philosophy for the last 12 years in the US. Her PhD dissertation (Université Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne) focused on the pathologies of the willpower, both in philosophical and psychological perspectives, but her interests are wide: …
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Episode 18 - How Doctors Think with Camillo Coccia
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Camillo is a medical doctor from South Africa. Currently he works as a senior house officer at Letterkenny University Hospital department of Hematology. He has a special interests in existentialist philosophy, German idealism and phenomenology. We published a paper together called "Because We Care: a philosophical investigation into the spirit of m…
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Episode 17 - Racism & Blackness with Ian Partman
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Ian Partman (he/they) is a 19-year old student, writer, activist, and artist based in New York City. He is the founder of Ignite Collective, a national organization of young activists who work to resist police violence through mutual aid and direct action. He currently works at the Brennan Center for Justice in the Office of the President. Their ac…
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Episode 16 - Visual Politics with Mark Reinhardt
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We've been looking at what Plato's allegory means. But what happens when we examine what it does? We'll discuss political scientist Mark Reinhardt's article "The Cave of Images: Understanding Visual Politics in and through Plato’s Republic" and what we can learn from it for the visual in contemporary politics, such as images of racism and violence.…
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Episode 15 - Bernard Stiegler’s Philosophy with Daniel Ross
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The returning soul in Plato's allegory of the Cave is not heard by the prisoners, who are too occupied with the shadows on the wall. In the most literal sense, Plato was probably speaking about how the people do not appreciate the philosophy of, for instance, his teacher Socrates, at the time when this philosopher is most needed. This is an indepen…
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Episode 14 - Food & Spirituality with Ilanta Sa
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What keeps Plato's prisoners chained in the cave? What keeps us grounded to our reality? Food is definitely one of those things. How can we develop a more conscious relationship to food, how can we turn our entire being (like Plato says) rather than just our intellect, and how can we integrate spiritual experiences in our daily life? Support me on …
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Episode 13 - Flat Earth & Science Communication with I Can Science That
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Imagine you descended from the surface into Plato's Cave and told them "you're in Plato's Cave!" And they responded "No, YOU'RE in Plato's Cave!" In this episode, we will speak about how to deal with science denial. To learn about science communication in general, we focus on one particular extreme case of science denial, which is the idea that we …
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Episode 12B - Plato’s Cave is Getting Hotter (discussing episodes 1-11)
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Welcome (or welcome Back) to Life From Plato's Cave. This is a course in interdisciplinary philosophy in which we look at life - the part of life that interests you - from a new perspective in every episode. In each of the other episodes, I will interview a guest about their intepretation of Plato's Allegory of the Cave: philosophers, artists, lite…
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Episode 12A - Travelling through Plato’s Cave
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Welcome (or welcome Back) to Life From Plato's Cave. This is a course in interdisciplinary philosophy in which we look at life - the part of life that interests you - from a new perspective in every episode. In each of the other episodes, I will interview a guest about their intepretation of Plato's Allegory of the Cave: philosophers, artists, lite…
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Episode 11 - Biology, Technology & Human Evolution with Pieter Lemmens
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The prisoners in Plato's Cave have their eyes fixed on the the cave wall. Their attention is literally captured by the shadows. They cannot turn their head so they cannot see each other. Since they have been there all their lives that means they have never seen a human being! In this conversation we will take a journey through Plato's Cave by follo…
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Episode 10 - Social Media & Infinite Distraction with Dominic Pettman
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"It's almost as if Plato saw Media Studies coming and invented this allegory for us to sort of set the stage from the beginning of western modernity. It's kind of uncanny how appropriate it remains. It's like it becomes more and more relevant as time passes." Today I speak with Dominic Pettman about social media, distraction and libido. About Domin…
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Episode 9 - The Biggest Question in Physics with Vincent Icke
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After the prisoner in Plato's cave has been released, and while they are climbing up to the surface, they no longer have the familiarity and comfort of their everyday life. But neither do they have the insight that comes with arriving at the surface. They are in between worlds, in between realities. They're in a state of profound confusion. And yet…
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Episode 8 - Neuroscience, Meditation & Dance with Marieke van Vugt
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The prisoners in Plato's Cave live in a world of projections. They think they see a cat, but it is actually a shadow of a statue of a cat. Is it the same for us? Do we live in a kind of illusion? And if so, what are ways to see through this illusion and lift the fog at least a little? We explore these questions with neuroscientist, Buddhist and bal…
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Episode 7 - Astrophysics & Exolife with Vincent Icke
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When we look at the situation of the prisoners in Plato's cave, their world is only one tiny part of all there is. They think that all that exists is the shadows on the wall. They're unaware of the fire, the way upwards, and everything at the surface. Have you ever looked at the stars at night and wondered what else is out there? Our guide today, a…
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Episode 6 - Trauma & the Holocaust with Ernst van Alphen
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When the prisoner in Plato's cave is released and turns around, the light of the fire is painful and terrifying. Running back to their seat, it makes no sense at all and they have no language to even speak about it. When we experience something that does not fit in the framework within which we make sense of our reality, can we even call it "experi…
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Episode 5 - Geology & Timefulness with Marcia Bjornerud
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Sometimes a cave is just a cave. Geologist Marcia Bjornerud will give us a guided tour of Plato's Cave. Marcia Bjornerud is Professor of Geology and Environmental Studies at Lawrence University in Appleton. Her research focuses on the physics of earthquakes and mountain-building, and she combines field-based studies of bedrock geology with quantita…
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Episode 4 - Life as Film with Masha Bronnikova
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Plato's description of the Cave is kind of like a cinema: an audience watching shadows on a screen, projected by a fire behind them. Have you ever felt like your life is a film? Have you noticed how many films have incorporated a Plato's Cave theme - The Matrix, Inception and The Truman Show, just to name a few? How can we learn from film, especial…
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