Welcome to the On Land podcast. On this show we’ll be bringing you thoughtful conversations with the people who are living and working on the land and shaping the future of stewardship in the American West.
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Working Wild U is a new podcast that takes you out into the field, forest and range with the people and wildlife of the American West to tell you the big stories at the heart of the struggle to sustain resilient and connected landscapes and communities. We bring you immersive stories at the crossroads of culture and science focused on the challenges and successes of sharing and managing farms and ranches with wildlife. If you are passionate about open spaces, wild places and healthy communit ...
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The National Land Podcast is for outdoor enthusiasts, ranchers, farmers, hunters, land owners, investors, and those looking to buy or sell land.
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Western Landowners Alliance: The New Age Of Conservation
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Conservation is a word that can have heavy political undertones and in some parts of the United States, it is a four-letter word. Often, conservation is pitted against landowners and agriculture as an either/or situation, and it shouldn’t be. Today, we are talking to Lesli Allison, CEO of the Western Landowners Alliance, an organization determined …
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What is Photoperiod And What Does It Have To Do With Turkeys?
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How do turkeys know when mating season starts? If you know the answer to that question, please don’t spoil it for the rest of the listeners. Turkeys, like deer, elk, and most other wildlife have a defined mating season at the same time each year. Actually, the only animals I could find that don’t have a mating season are the Golden Spiny Mouse, the…
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Conserving Soundscapes with Sensory Ecologist Jesse Barber
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How does human-related sound impact wildlife around us? From trails to roads to cities, this question propels Dr. Jesse Barber, a leader in the emerging field of sensory ecology. Jesse Barber is a professor of biological sciences at Boise State University. He was recently appointed as the chief conservation curator and chief conservation scientist …
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Understanding the Complexities of Carbon Credits
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Can you use your land for carbon credits? This is just one of the questions that gets answered on today's episode of the National Land Podcast. At the heart of today’s conversation is The Nectar Exchange, a non-profit group dedicated to conservation in land management. Doug Bruggeman is a Ph.D. in natural resource management, Steve Martin is a Prof…
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Watershed-Scale Stewardship with Chrissy McFarren of Badger Creek Ranch
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In this episode of the On Land Podcast, we sit down with Chrissy McFarren, the owner of Badger Creek Ranch in Cañon City, Colorado. Chrissy shares her journey from a first-generation rancher, originally from California, to becoming a dedicated land steward in the American West. We explore the challenges and triumphs of managing a 6,500-acre ranch, …
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From Hunting Guide to Land Sales: Taylor Heithold
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Every outdoors enthusiast has probably dreamed at some point of making a career guiding adventures in the outdoors. Today, we are talking to one of our new agents, Taylor Heithold, who works in South Carolina and Georgia. Taylor spent the past decade working as a guide all around the United States. He took the route of first going to guide school a…
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The Most Important Part Of Harvesting Timber
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We are here with Georgia land real estate agent, Steve Chapman, and Dr. Yanshu Li of the Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources at the University of Georgia. Dr. Li is an associate professor of Forest Economics and Taxation and Steve Chapman is a forester with 35 years of experience, so this should give you a good idea of where the conversa…
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Fox Hunting and Land Sales in an Equestrian Paradise
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Middleburg Virginia is an equestrian paradise. Fox hunts, equestrian facilities, and incredible landscapes help to make this area of Virginia a destination for who live the equestrian lifestyle. Today we are talking about this wonderful area with National Land Realty agent, Miley Holtzman. Contact Miley Holtzman Buy, Sell, Lease, or Auction Land…
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Western Landowners Policy Talk | #1 | Jason Fearneyhough and Lesli Allison
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The first Western Landowners Policy Talk, a special monthly edition of the On Land Podcast, hosted by Louis Wertz of the Western Landowners Alliance, featured Jason Fearneyhough, chief policy officer with WLA, and WLA CEO Lesli Allison. Jason joined WLA as chief policy officer in February 2024, after stints as the deputy commissioner of agriculture…
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Crockett Carothers, Host of The Wealthy Cowboy Podcast
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Wealth management is something we all struggle with. Today, Mac Christian is sitting down with Crockett Carothers, host of The Wealthy Cowboy Podcast. Crockett's content focuses on wealth generation for the cowboy lifestyle and can be applied to anybody looking for information on the topic. Crockett is here today to discuss how he started his caree…
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Thank you to everybody who makes this podcast possible for 100 terrific episodes!Oleh National Land Realty
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Why we chose the outdoors over a 9-5, Episode 100
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Today is our 100th episode for the National Land Realty Podcast. We have assembled a panel of guests to discuss why we pursued careers related to the outdoors rather than a regular 9-5. Jimmy Riley, Jason Lupardus, Ryan Schroeter, and Brian Austin have all created remarkable success and they are here today to tell their story and give advice. Have …
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Top Disease Ecologist Speaks on CWD
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In our last episode, we spoke with Jay Cantrell, Wildlife Biologist for the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources about Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD). Previously we spoke with Doctor Mike Chamberlain and today, it is our privilege to learn from Doctor Sonja Christensen on the same important topic. Doctor Christiansen is a professor in the …
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What Happens When CWD Crosses State Lines?
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Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is something we are covering a lot on this podcast. This issue affects land owners across the United States, and the problem is very real. We have previously talked with Doctor Mike Chamberlain on the topic and have an upcoming episode with Doctor Sonja Christiansen. Today, we are talking with South Carolina Department…
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Imperiled | 07 | What can pollinators teach us about the future of conservation?
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Throughout this season, we’ve explored landowner- and community-led efforts to support imperiled species, from bears and birds to ferrets and fish. In the final episode of this season, we’re looking ahead to the future of imperiled pollinators on working lands. Across the country, there is a growing crisis when it comes to pollinators. What happens…
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Mac Christian is talking again with Farmer Mac Chief Economist, Jackson Takach to discuss the current state of land as well as our current economic conditions. We meet with Jackson once per quarter to discuss land values along with commodities and various topics that we feel bring value to you listeners. We sat down this quarter to discuss the grea…
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How Land Is Picked For Solar Lease!
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A while back we did a podcast on solar development and how to lease your land for solar energy production. Mac Christian spoke with National Land Realty Managing Broker, Wayne Dunson. Wayne expressed a desire to know what goes on on the other side of the table when a property is under consideration for solar development. Today, we have answers to t…
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Imperiled | 06 | Can Pacific salmon and Idaho ranchers share the river?
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How do we restore salmon spawning habitat in the Upper Salmon watershed without harming the ranching communities that rely on the river? The answer lies in locally-driven collaboration. In this episode, we explore the decades-long community effort to restore spawning grounds for Columbia Basin salmon by letting landowners take the lead. Back in the…
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What you need to know about leasing land!
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Land values are high. Actually, all real estate values are the highest we have ever seen. This presents challenges for those seeking to acquire land for sale, whether for agriculture or recreation. This is especially true for those who do not have the upfront cash to acquire it. As we have discussed on this podcast, land loans are difficult to obta…
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What Can You Do To Help Turkey Populations?
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Spring turkey season is coming to an end, which makes today’s conversation that much more important. We are talking with the Director of Business Operations and Partnerships for Turkeys for Tomorrow, Jason Lupardus. Jason has been traveling around the country taking stock of turkey populations and harvest reports. What he has to say could potential…
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Buying and Selling Outfitting Guide Businesses
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“I want to drop everything I’m doing, live in the outdoors, and guide hunting or fishing expeditions.” There isn't an outdoors enthusiast who hasn’t thought of it. Half of you listening have probably worked as a guide at some point. For those of you who have thought about running your own outfitting business, we are here today to talk with Todd Dye…
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Imperiled | 05 | What do carbon and cows have to do with lesser prairie-chickens?
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In the heart of America's grasslands, a battle for survival is unfolding. The lesser prairie-chicken, an iconic species of the Great Plains, is on the brink of extinction. But there's a growing network of producers and partners across the plains looking to change that. Today on the show, can ranchers and partners work together to save the lesser pr…
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Quest Hunt: Hunt With Friends, Join A Community, Win Prizes!
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Hunt with a friend, compete against other hunters and potentially win thousands in prizes. This is the idea behind Quest Hunt. Through a simple registration process, hundreds of hunters from across the United States are registering as teams to compete for prizes given away at an exclusive banquet at the end of the hunting season. Think you have imp…
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Alternate Land Uses For Income: Building An RV Park
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Land has many uses and there is no end to the possibilities that can generate income. Today, we are discussing one of those possibilities, building an RV Park. Jim Fleissener, an Accredited Land Consultant and Agent out of Nebraska is here to discuss a recent transaction that did not go as planned. Despite the hiccups, there is a ton of valuable in…
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Imperiled | Bonus | Can these teens recover the razorback sucker?
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When it comes to conservation, can a group of high school students really make a difference? Join Jared and Hallie as they dive into a story involving the Colorado River, an ancient endangered fish, and a group of high school students who are becoming the next generation of stewards. Complete show notes are available on our website.…
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Ranch Management in Drought Conditions: High-Intensity, Low-Frequency Grazing
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The Texas panhandle, like many areas of the United States, has experienced its share of drought conditions over the years. Grazing cattle in drought conditions may seem like an insurmountable challenge, but as we are about to find out, there are ways to not only thrive but to prosper. Mike Turner manages Blue Ranch near Amarillo, Texas, and he has …
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Land Law: Inheritance, Easements, Encroachments, and More!
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Can a squatter legally take your land? How should you handle a neighbor’s fence on your land? Are old, unused easements still viable on your land? How should you give land to your kids? Today we are here with Tiffany Lashmet, Associate Professor and Extension Specialist in Agricultural Law. She will help us answer those questions and more. We also …
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Making Quickbooks Work For You With VARC Solutions
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It’s that wonderful time of year again. Flowers are blooming, grass is growing, turkey and bear seasons are kicking off… yes, it’s tax season. You might not think of a conversation about tax and small business software as anything that has to do with land, but our agents make up over 400 small business owners nationwide. The landowners we work with…
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Turkeys for Tomorrow: Saving our Turkey Populations
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Today, we’re here to talk turkey and it’s good timing because turkey season is about to start. United States turkey populations are a hot topic with several areas showing a decline in numbers nationwide. Jason Lupardus is the Director of Business Operations and Partnerships for an organization you should know about, Turkeys for Tomorrow. Jason is h…
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Not Knowing About Wetlands May Cost You
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Wetlands assessments and remediation are things that most landowners don’t consider until it’s too late. The location of wetlands is not as simple as looking at your land to see if there’s water and the consequences of not knowing about wetlands on your land can be very expensive. Curt Kleist is the CEO of CK Wetlands, a consulting firm that assist…
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2024 Commercial Real Estate Outlook
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Commercial real estate has been a big story throughout the United States for 2023 and into 2024. News stories have fluctuated from calling commercial real estate a disaster waiting to happen to a strong market with plenty of opportunity. We want to clear up what is happening in commercial real estate, so we went to one of the best information sourc…
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Have Northwest Alabama Land Real Estate Markets Cooled?
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Alabama land real estate markets have been piping red hot over the past few years. Over the past year though, national real estate markets have cooled considerably. How has this affected Alabama? Today, we are talking with Jonathan Berryhill, of Huntsville, Alabama to answer that question. Jonathan brings us his insight on land values and whether o…
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How Proper Buck/Doe Ratio Grows the Herd
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Jimmy Riley is an agent out of Louisiana and Mississippi. He is also responsible for creating one of the most successful deer habitats in Mississippi, has been a guest on several hunting TV shows, and has forgotten more than most of us will ever learn regarding land improvements for deer. He also has what is probably our favorite social media accou…
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Imperiled | 04 | Chasing ghosts: Can a mysterious bird galvanize a rural renaissance?
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Finding an imperiled species on his ranch scared the daylights out of Russell Davis. What he and his neighbors did next may have saved their town. Today on Working Wild U, join us as we return to the high plains of eastern Colorado to learn how a small ranching community transformed a migratory bird’s imperiled status from threat to opportunity. Co…
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Spring Season Land Preparations with Christian Hayes
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Today Mac Christian sits down and talks with National Land Realty agent, Christian Hayes, out of Oklahoma City. Christian has worked in ranching, forestry, and is the owner of Hayes Land Services, LLC where he provides land management. Today we’re talking about his journey into land, snakes, and advice on seasonal preparations for your land. Contac…
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Jackson Takach is the Chief Economist for Farmer Mac. If you have missed previous episodes, Mac Christian talks with Jackson once per quarter to ask for his insight on what we see in the land markets around the United States and what we can expect in the coming months. As one of the top minds today in agricultural economics of the United States, Ja…
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Imperiled | 03 | Can we bring black-footed ferrets back from the brink?
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Today on Working Wild U, we're spotlighting, quite literally, one special species that calls the Great Plains home. A small predator that was thought to be extinct.... twice! Meet the black-footed ferret, the most endangered mammal in North America. Thanks to community-driven efforts spanning the Great Plains, from dedicated ranchers in eastern Col…
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Midwest Farmland Values in 2024, with Dr. Gary Schnitkey
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What is going to happen in agricultural land values in 2024? Today, we’ve got somebody who can give you insight into the year ahead. Dr. Gary Schnitkey is a professor at the University of Illinois College of Agricultural, Consumer, and Environmental Sciences for Agricultural & Consumer Economics. He is also the Soybean Industry Chair in Agricultura…
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Zillow's Acquisition of FUB: Discussion With FUB CMO, Steve Pacinelli
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Late in 2023, Zillow made headlines with the acquisition of Follow Up Boss, now rebranded as FUB. An acquisition involving $400 million in initial cash consideration and up to $100 million in potential cash earnout tends to make the news. Today, we are talking with Steve Pacinelli, Chief Marketing Officer for Follow Up Boss, about this acquisition …
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Land Tax Strategies You Should Know About
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Benjamin Franklin once stated, “Our new Constitution is now established, everything seems to promise it will be durable; but, in this world, nothing is certain except death and taxes.” Yes, it’s everybody’s favorite time of the year, tax season. Today, we are going to discuss how these certainties play into your land strategy as well as your life p…
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Imperiled | 02 | Where are the grizzlies headed?
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Grizzly bears are expanding their range. But where are they headed? To find out, we get out on the land with ranchers Erik Kalsta and Jami Murdoch, who are working with partners to monitor wildlife – including grizzlies – on their operation in southwest Montana. Together with Erik, Jami and Blackfeet rancher Kristen Kipp, plus a band of other exper…
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1031 Exchanges: Your Questions Answered
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Terri Jensen is one of only 14 Accredited Land Consultants in Minnesota out of an industry consisting of over eighteen thousand agents. She is a past president of the Realtor’s Land Institute, a member of various planning commissions, a former Vice President of Real Estate/Appraisal Operations, an adjunct professor for the University of Nebraska, a…
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What It Takes To Make It As A Land Real Estate Agent
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Today Mac Christian is talking to a National Land Realty out of Oklahoma, Dillon Smith. Dillon is relatively new to land sales but don’t let that fool you. He is a fifth-generation farmer who has a passion for land. After a budding science career, Dillon went back to his agricultural roots and now helps residents of Oklahoma buy and sell farms and …
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Imperiled | 01 | Can ranchers save arctic grayling?
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When a section of the Big Hole River in southwest Montana ran dry in 1988, all eyes were on the future of one of the last remaining populations of arctic grayling in the lower 48. Out of the struggle, a collaboration emerged that change the future of the Big Hole - a future where human communities, wildlife and the ecosystems they depend on can thr…
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It’s one thing to highlight land agents with years of experience, but interviewing a new agent gives an entirely new insight into the land industry. James Liles is a new agent with National Land Realty but he is anything but new to land development. Today we are talking about his adventurous history and the adventures that await him in land sales. …
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Ramsey Russell: A Legendary Duck Hunter’s New Adventure in Land Sales
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Ramsey Russell is a is a forester, a wildlife biologist, a graduate of Mississippi State University, and just happens to be one of the best-known personalities in the world of duck hunting. Ramsey is the owner of GetDucks.com and he answers to monikers such as “The Christopher Columbus of duck hunting” as well as “The Pied Piper of duck hunters.” R…
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Getting the Answers About Chronic Wasting Disease
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This episode is something that is personal for host, Mac Christian. Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) just hit his area of the United States and it’s something he has a lot of questions about. Whether you’ve had it in your area for years or you’ve never been around it, you likely have questions as well. Dr. Michael Chamberlain is a Terrell Professor of…
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Wild Turkey 101: Turkey Behavior and Current Populations
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Turkey hunting is an obsession for thousands of hunters across the United States. Today Mac Christian is talking with Dr. Michael Chamberlain as well as National Land Realty agent, Steve Chapman. Dr. Michael Chamberlain is a Terrell Professor of Wildlife Ecology and Management at Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources at the University of G…
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We're excited to announce the second season of Working Wild U: Imperiled. This season we're exploring community and landowner-led wildlife conservation on working and tribal lands across the West. From grizzly bears to lesser-known species, join us as we discover the challenges and successes of how communities are working together for common-ground…
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Timber Investing: The Potential Income Generation of Your Trees
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Timber investment is a topic that comes up a lot with land. Timber quite simply builds everything, we will never stop using it, and we will always need more of it. Some landowners make small harvests of timber for income and some use timber as a primary investment source. If you own land, you should probably be aware of the basics of timber and tod…
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