We are four ordinary Americans who happen to be atheists. In this podcast we discuss topics that are relevant to non-believers.
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COMEDIC CULTURAL COMMENTARY. Hosted by Max-El & Lil' Keith. Produced by MAXIMUM ELEVATION.
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I am a writer/comedian looking to create discussion and thought on "hot topics". I use profanity, sarcasm and humor...like regular people. And like most people, I believe in common sense and personal responsibility, but I do lean "slightly right".
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Did you know that Santa Cruz, CA was once considered the murder capital of America? Sacred + Profane is your gateway into the unseen and dives deep into the early 1970s where three very well-known serial killers were actively murdering the residents of Santa Cruz, CA. This quiet little seaside town in Northern California was the hotbed for 30 months of unexplained serial murders - Ed Kemper, Herbert Mullin, and John Linley Frazier. We’ll follow a fascinating and chilling exploration of these ...
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Sacred and Profane: Bending the Binaries of Faith , is a podcast bringing queer and faith perspectives to the ordinary and extraordinary topics that are threaded through our lives. Pam Rocker and Roberto Che Espinoza spend a lot of time in the public square talking about faith, religion, LGBTQ+ stuff, and queer possibility, fused together with comedy. Pam and Roberto are kindred spirits and Texans who are immersed in activist and spiritual movements. Sacred and Profane puts the elements of s ...
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Ep#402: Science, Trump, and Texas hellscape
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Follow-ups: Science in school @2:05Science and Secularism on the brink @3:14GA fighting back @8:25Pakistani Supreme Court @9:53FDA has approved two updated COVID vaccines. @12:00Politics: Bannon being TORTURED in prison @13:25RFK endorses Trump @16:18WHALE!J6 Gala @22:05NEW! Trump NFTs @23:54Trump’s Gish Gallop @30:49Debate? @34:44News:FOXNews upda…
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Follow-ups: Santos @1:33Politics: Secret Vought video @2:58Cost of 2025 GA election @8:23GOP response to Kamala @11:51RFK Jr @14:50News:Add MO and AZ to the abortion ballet list @16:51TX education @21:28DNC talk @24:13Swifties @26:54JDVance’s fake jizz @30:53Health/Medicine/Science: Quackwatch MPox @34:56COVID @36:38Should you get the jab?KP.2 soon…
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Ep#400: Anything but the real thing
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Follow-ups: Pakistan @4:28Tina Peters @6:45Lack of abortion fallout @8:24Satanic Temple @14:22Imane Khelif cyberbullying @15:12Religious Nonsense:Kenneth Copeland @22:16Politics: Epstein jet @25:05Trump’s meltdown @26:44Willie Brown @37:00Trump and Musk @38:32Laura Inghram @44:10News:Louisiana misrepresentation At a press conference on Monday @48:2…
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Follow-ups: KS police chief @2:16OK school districts rebelling @4:26CN ban on religious exemptions upheld @5:56Slapping therapist convicted…again @6:59Religious Nonsense:Pakistan arrest @8:48Politics: Kamala VP @10:45Why not Shapiro? @21:33Why Kamabla? Trumps new nickname. @28:10NABJ @32:56RFK Jr and the Bear @37:42News:Boxing @45:01Pole Vaulting @…
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S.7 E.30: Discussing the Book The Summer of 2020: with Drs. Andre Johnson and Amanda Nell Edgar
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Continuing on with part 2 of our season finale double header! Long time friend Dr. Andre Johson is back to talk about his new book with co-author Dr. Amanda Nell Edgar.Be sure to listen to the 1st of the two as well! See you all in Season 8!In the wake of George Floyd’s murder in May 2020, protests broke out in Minneapolis and quickly spread across…
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Follow-ups: Kim Davis @1:57Biden’s SCOTUS changes? @6:34Trump’s ear @10:15Rev 13:3 Laura Ingram interview @13:17Trump rally gives it awayPhotographer banned? @17:46Ian’s sunglasses @23:31Politics: Trump and Xtian nationalism @26:06AZ Primary @30:55Trump judge @ 35:46News:Israelis storm prison @38:16Religious Nonsense:Gratuitous blasphemy @44:19Dion…
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S.7 E.29: Fighting On and On: Rev. Allyn Maxfield-Steele
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Here we are, good people, at the end of season 7! But not without a double header! First up, Allyn Maxfield-Steele. What a name!! A newfound friend and fellow anti-racist Allyn is a co-executive director at Highlander Research and Education Center. He's been fighting the good fight and has some good things to say about it. Join me in listening in!h…
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Follow-ups: Thanks to Dr Kate Common @KateCommon @1:56LA delayed @4:09AZ vouchers expense @5:00Menendez @7:16Politics: Kamala @8:36God spared Trump @16:20Another bible check Conspiracies abound @20:53Harris VP pick? @24:20Religious Nonsense:LDS class action lawsuit @50:39Health/Medicine/Science: Quackwatch COVID numbers this year @54:11At home alle…
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Ep#396: Menendez, RNC, and the Moon
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Follow-ups: Ohio Action Alert @1:34LA Clergy @7:23Bob Menendez @8:24Guo Wengui @14:13Jim Inhofe @16:41News:Trump rally @17:48Case dismissed @33:20AppealFact-free conspiracy theories from both the right and left. @38:11RNCJD Vance @46:08Vince Fusca @50:35Corey Comperatore @57:46Josh Hawley @1:01:19Sean FeuchtPolitics: Olena Zelinsky @1:05:25Final St…
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Ep#395: I was trying to be elitist, you made me racist.
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Follow-ups: OK continues @1:07Religious Nonsense:Scopes trial to Project 2025 @5:3870 years ago @11:10Trey Crowder @13:19Pakistani breast milk bank closes @14:34Politics: French vote @21:03Biden explains @24:23JD Vance @28:45Biden’s replacement @35:20Kevin Roberts @50:16Trump’s claim @52:55Rubio’s response @54:4920 points @58:52Health/Medicine/Scie…
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S.7 E.28: Seen Fire and Seen Rain: The J.R. Forasteros
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You already know who this is! There is a lot to talk about and get into these days! Having the always unique and intriguing J.R. Forasteros is so great and refreshing! Come on now!https://jrforasteros.com/jr-bio/https://sojo.net/biography/jr-forasteroshttps://www.arthousedallas.com/stories/2018/6/19/jr-forasteros-authorhttps://soundcloud.com/whiteh…
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Ep#394: Debate, SCOTUS, and slapping therapy
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Follow-ups: LA Governor Jeff Landry, who boasted he “can’t wait to be sued”, has now been sued @2:13OK Supreme Court put the kibosh on the nation’s first religious-run charter school @3:49Pakistan @5:53News:Atheist Parolee @9:32Debate @12:41SCOTUS @34:38On CT vaccinesCorner PostChevronPOTUSHealth/Medicine/Science: Quackwatch This Week @48:41Hemorrh…
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Follow-ups: Jared’s colonoscopy @1:05Window to hell @5:41LA 10 Commandments @12:14SignedAlaska schools @16:51Trump's follow-up @20:28Debate question @30:31News:NH Marriage @36:05Shauna Rae question @42:24Religious Nonsense:Not just religious schools @49:26“How Christian nationalism is going under the radar in this election.” @52:23Health/Medicine/S…
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Episode 71: Dana Gioia on the Tragic Thought of Seneca
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In this season finale, internationally acclaimed poet Dana Gioia and I discuss Seneca's thought in general, and his tragic work The Madness of Hercules in particular. I hope you enjoy our conversation!Oleh Sacred and Profane Love
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Ep#392: The Pope, The Hajj, and the Boyz
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Conspiracies:Philippine conspiracy @1:50News:Indonesia @8:02Pope Frank @11:01The Hajj @15:00SCOTUS unanimously rejected challenge @22:34Bump stocks @A new study on disinformation @33:26Politics: Project 2025 @37:35John OliverTrue Texas Project @47:53Charlie Kirk @53:29Religious Nonsense:Doug Wilson @54:18Women leaving religion @57:54The Boyz talk @…
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S.7 E.27: Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism: Elizabeth Neumann
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This week ya'll! Remember when I said there was an alarming amount of White racists joining law enforcement, the military, and government agencies....yeah...well, this week, we talk to the expert who's been monitoring domestic terrorists here in the U.S. Elizabeth Newmann joins me to discuss her latest book. Listen in!Elizabeth Neumann served as th…
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Follow-ups: Slow week? @2:39AL update @3:33Politics: Trump teleprompter rant @4:32Bannon @13:36Appeal is filed this eveningHunter found guilty @15:52Carlson @27:42Federal mask mandate @31:59South Dakota Nazis @37:02PA State House @40:52News:NewsBreak @42:29Scott Roder @45:49Two “inter-dimensional beings”‘2000 Mules’ @49:30 Southern Baptist Conventi…
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Episode 70: The Poetry of John Donne w/ Lars Engle
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In this episode, I speak with my colleague, Lars Engle, on the poetry and person of John Donne. There is no poet more attuned to the connections between the sacred and the profane than Donne, and it was a pleasure to hear Donne's poetic voice through Engle's readings. I hope you enjoy our conversation!…
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Ep#390: Guilty! Politics and mold
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Follow-ups: TX runoff election update @2:33Politics: Trump @4:49Hunter Biden! @11:31Swift conspiracy!! @14:48Trump Witnesses @15:55On the TikTok @20:22Jeff Yass Bill Burr & Bill Maher @21:59House Dem, “Pardon Trump” @23:59Joe Manchin @27:16McCarthy and Gaetz @29:10Tiffany @35:04Fauci’s testimony @35:52News:TX Professors @49:10Also, TX SBOE @52:10Re…
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S.7 E.26: Beyond Ethnic Loneliness The Pain of Marginalization: Prasanta Verma
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Oh, this a good one right here! As a BIPoC have you ever felt like you were the only one and the only one doing the damn thing....yeah, me too! This week I get to talk with my new friend, Prasanta Verma. She was born under an Asian sun, raised in the Appalachian foothills in the South, and now resides in the Upper Midwest. Her essays and poetry hav…
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Ep#389: Trump, Alito, and the Pope
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Follow-ups: Not a follow-up, Do you believe in God? @2:03News:MyChurchFinder @4:55Politics: Ashli Babbitt stone @9:25Cohen censure @18:33John Banuelos @19:39Libertarian Trump @25:22Trump threats @31:30Grifting the Rich @37:03Trial wrapping up @40:24Trump’s Memorial Day rant @45:22More classified Docs @48:39Nikki Haley @53:41Biden Judge picks @55:08…
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Episode 69: Cormac McCarthy's "Blood Meridian" w/ Aaron Gwyn
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In this episode, I discuss Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian with Aaron Gwyn. I hope you enjoy our conversation!Oleh Sacred and Profane Love
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Ep#388: Bleach blonde bad built butch body bitch
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Follow-ups: Mubarak Bala @2:04News:Iran President @4:52Pakistan PECA law @8:09Tithy Sarkar @9:46John Wiley & Sons @12:05Politics: Trump talk @13:44A Unified Reich! @22:37Old Vanity Fair @29:31Abbott pardons Perry @35:25Giulianni served @44:24Pic or it didn't happenFalse Eyelashes @49:03OH school release @52:31Courtney Gore @57:11NC Masks @59:37Heal…
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Ep#387: Hannibal Lecter and Stonewall Jackson
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News:Thursday (May 16): Skeptical Inquirer Presents @1:21Call to action: MO child marriage @5:28Stonewall Jackson High Psychic Enablers @13:01Politics: AL lawsuit can move forward @18:25LA abortion pills @21:52WA GOP @22:19Nikki Haley @29:25RFK Jr @38:42Stop the Coup @43:29Religious Nonsense:Deacon charged @45:21Modern Mormon Missionaries @47:53Tru…
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S.7 E.25 The Hope in our Scars: Finding God in Disillusionment: Aimee Byrd
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This week I talk with a newfound friend who has gotten the holy crap beat out of her from toxic churches and evangelicals. Goodness. Unfortunately, her story is not unique, but she also holds in tension the hope within this type of theological disillusionment! Join us this week & listen in with Aimee Byrd.Aimee Byrd is a former coffee cafe owner wh…
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Follow-ups: May the 4th @1:22Darth Trump @2:39Hope Hicks testimony @5:48“You remind me of my daughter” @12:56IT firm doing work for Cohen @15:29OK Chaplains @18:28Pre show conversation about bears @20:14Politics: MO HB2446 @33:17FL abortion ban in place @34:55CNN Poll @35:19Upcoming voting @35:50Religious Nonsense:OR Followers of Christ @39:14Dawki…
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Episode 68: The Poetry of Jonathan Swift with Steve Karian
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In this episode, I speak with Stephen Karian, renowned scholar of 18th century British literature, on the poems of Jonathan Swift, the promise and perils of satire, and the pleasures of reading profane poetry written by one of the great Divines. I hope you enjoy our conversation. Read along with us at .…
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Ep#385: Does anybody listen when I talk?
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News:Bennett Braun has died @1:02Late Night with the Devil @3:10Russell Brand @4:34Kitara Ravache @6:55Trump and Barr @11:17Correspondents dinner @22:40UK asylum seeker? @23:13BTW, watch for the blasphemy lawsPolitics: KA anti-Trans bill @27:53LA bills to oppose @29:01SCOTUS recap @32:09DEA to reclassify weed @35:27New HIPAA rules @36:27Kristi Noem…
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Ep#384: Leopards poisoned my face
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Politics: House approves aid bill @3:45News:Daniel Dennett @7:29FL chaplains @19:50LA labor law @22:27UAW in the South @27:18ID Personhood @28:25Indiana now has religious right to abortion @31:18NV Supreme Court @32:29AZ Dems try to repeal @34:19Ballot initiatives @35:18NH Promotes Polio! @37:15Bill Maher is gone off the deep end @43:44US Blogger R…
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S.7 E.24 Learning to Disagree and Navigating Differences: Dr. John D. Inazu
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This week we going into some pragmatics on disagreement, conflict, and basic dignity when we do disagree. Dr. John Inazu is my guest discussing his new book and a whole lot more! Check it out!!John Inazu’s scholarship focuses on the First Amendment freedoms of speech, assembly, and religion, and related questions of legal and political theory. His …
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Ep#383: Iran, Gettysburg, and Italy
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CSI Las Vegas @2:12Follow-ups: News:Peter Higgs @3:44Iran attack Israel @5:56Politics: Gettysburg @15:33House GOP @26:26The weirdest grift @28:45VA ban on marriage @34:16ME God’s wrath @36:56CO to join 11 states @38:21Religious Nonsense:Outrageous blasphemy in Italy @41:11TN Deputy Baptism @45:00Police mindset/Acorn story @56:51Health/Medicine/Scie…
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