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A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible. We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, A ...
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Flavors of Ship It! (Interview)
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Flavors of Ship It on The Changelog — if you’re not subscribed to Ship It yet, do so at shipit.show or by searching for “Ship it” wherever you listen to podcasts. Every week Justin Garrison and Autumn Nash explore everything that happens after git push — and today’s flavors include running infrastructure in space, managing millions of machines at M…
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Brandon Roberts - Angular, Front-End Frameworks, and OpenSauced
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On this week's episode, we're excited to have Brandon Roberts on the show. Brandon is a software engineer at Open Sauced, a company that helps other companies build better open source software. He's also a creator of Analog, an full stack framework for building Angular apps. https://brandonroberts.dev/ https://github.com/brandonroberts https://www.…
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Practices of reliable software design (News)
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Chris Stjernlöf got nerd-sniped and ended up writing down his practices of reliable software design, Ben Visness has had enough with the npm community’s propensity to pull in micro-libraries to suit every need, “Stay SaaSy” makes three metaphors for problem solving categories, Troy Hunt takes us inside the “3 billion people” National Public Data br…
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You won’t believe the bizarre secrets Jordan Eldredge found investigating corrupt Winamp skins (#7 will shock you)! You also won’t believe how long we can wax nostalgic about the era of Napster, Aladdin & Pearl Jam. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Paragon – …
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Why we need Ladybird (Interview)
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Andreas Kling and Chris Wanstrath have joined forces to form a non-profit called Ladybird Browser Initiative to manage the newly forked Ladybird browser. We discuss what it’s going to take to get to alpha, the why behind Ladybird, avoiding incentives other than those of the users, their plans for incremental adoption of Swift as the successor langu…
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Jimmy Miller tells us about the best, worst codebase he’s ever seen, The Phylum Research Team follows up on the great npm garbage patch, Zach Leatherman logs his findings on sneaky serverless costs, David Cain wants you to go on quests instead of goals & Ashley Janssen gives us szeven rules for effective meeting culture. Leave us a comment Changelo…
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Richard Feldman - Zed, Roc Lang - Elm but for everywhere
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This week we're joined by Richard Feldman, the author of Roc lang, a futuristic functional programming language. Richard is a software engineer at Zed, a company that making a new code editor that's built on the Rust programming language and integrates AI. We talk about all the crazy feature that Roc lang has, and how it might change the way you wr…
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Picking a database should be simple (Friends)
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Database aficionado, Ben Johnson, joins Jerod to answer the age ol’ question: which database should you use? Answering that isn’t always easy, which means it’s time to play the “It Depends” jingle & weigh (some of) the options. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Spo…
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Into the Bobiverse (Interview)
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Dennis E. Taylor joins the show to take us “Into the Bobiverse” and other books he’s written. Dennis shares the backstory on how he went from programmer to author/writer and creator of Audible’s Best Science Fiction Book of 2016, his process for iterating and developing the story as he writes, plans for a Bobiverse movie, and what’s next in book 5 …
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80% of professional programmers are unhappy (News)
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The latest Stack Overflow Developer Survey has some concerning results, Joeri Sebrechts helps you do plain vanilla web dev, MIT’s “missing semester” course looks pretty amazing, a dive into the fascinating history of CSV & a tool to get request analytics from the nginx access logs. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members support our work, get closer…
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This week we're delighted to have Nicholas Zakas on the show to talk about ESLint. ESLint is a tool that helps you find and fix problems in your JavaScript code by writing plugins that check for patterns in your code's AST. We talk about the history of ESLint, the challenges of building a linter, and the future of of ESLint. https://x.com/slicknet …
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From Chef to System Initiative (Friends)
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Adam Jacob goes solo with Adam for an epic pod into his journey to get to System Initiative. From SysAdmin at 8 years old, to discovering Linux and working for Mom-and-pop ISPs, to open source changing his life and starting Opscode and building Chef. Buckle up. This is a different flavor of “Friends” for you. Enjoy. Leave us a comment Changelog++ m…
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Joseph Jacks (JJ) is back! We discuss the latest in COSS funding, his thesis for investing in commercial open source companies, the various rug pulls happening out there in open source licensing, and Zuck/Meta’s generosity releasing Llama 3.1 as “open source.” Leave us a comment Changelog++ members save 13 minutes on this episode because they made …
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The Swiss government goes open source (News)
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The Switzerland federal government requires releasing its software as open source, Google decides not to deprecate third-party cookies, Mark Zuckerberg says “open source” AI is the path forward, GitHub allows anyone access to deleted / private repository data & Tailscale wants to build a New Internet. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members support …
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Nathan Walker, Eduardo Speroni - NativeScript. Use Native API right in JS
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This week we're joined by Nathan Walker and Eduardo Speroni, two members of the NativeScript team. NativeScript is a framework that enables you to use native platform APIs in JavaScript. We talk about the history of NativeScript, the current state of the project, and the future of cross-platform mobile development. https://nativescript.org/ https:/…
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The BSOD CrowdStrikes back (Friends)
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Robert Ross joins us in CrowdStrike’s wake to dissect the largest outage in the history of information technology… and what it means for the future of the (software) world. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 9 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Cronitor – Cronitor helps you understand your cron jo…
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The man behind the Sandwich (Interview)
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Adam Lisagor (Sandwich Video founder) takes us behind the Sandwich to share his insights into the importance of storytelling in the tech industry, the value of helping Founders communicate their stories effectively, the details behind his new AI company, and the apps he’s making for Apple Vision Pro at Sandwich Vision. Leave us a comment Changelog+…
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Southwest flies high over CrowdStrike outage (News)
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Brendan Gregg details how eBPF can help us have no more blue Fridays, Misty De Meo thinks GitHub is starting to feel like legacy software, Gavin D. Howard does not want Rust to be used for everything, The Notion team published a deep dive into how they used the WASM version of SQLite to improve browser performance & Gregor Ojstersek writes up how t…
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There’s a TUI for that (Friends)
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Nick Janetakis is back and this time we’re talking about TUIs (text-based user interfaces) — some we’ve tried and some we plan to try. All are collected from Justin Garrison’s Awesome TUIs repo on GitHub. This episode is “AI free.” Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 17 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Spo…
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What even is the modern data stack (Interview)
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Benn Stancil’s weekly Substack on data and technology provides a fascinating perspective on the modern data stack & the industry building it. On this episode, Benn joins Jerod to dissect a few of his essays, discuss opportunities he sees during this slowdown & explain why he thinks maybe we should disband the analytics team. Leave us a comment Chan…
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The six dumbest ideas in computer security (News)
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Marcus J. Ranum’s 2005 post on dumb ideas in computer security still holds up, Barry Jones argues why story points are useless, Posting is an HTTP client as a TUI, Varnish ceator Poul-Henning Kamp (phk) reflects on ten years of working on the HTTP cache & es-tookit is a major upgrade to Lodash. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members support our wor…
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Robby Russell - oh my zsh, Planet Argon
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This week we have Robby Russell, the creator of Oh My ZSH, and CEO of Planet Argon. We talk about the history of Oh My ZSH, the history of Planet Argon, and the future of terminal environments. https://ohmyz.sh/ https://github.com/robbyrussell https://x.com/robbyrussell https://robbyonrails.com/ https://www.planetargon.com/ Episode sponsored By Cle…
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Last DevRel standing (Friends)
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Shawn “swyx” Wang is back to talk with us about the state of DevRel according to ZIRP (the Zero Interest Rate Phenomenon), the data that backs up the rise and fall of job openings, whether or not DevRel is dead or dying, speculation of the near-term arrival of AGI, AI Engineering as the last job standing, the innovation from Cognition with Devin as…
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It all starts with Postgres (Interview)
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Paul Copplestone, CEO of Supabase (the meme-lord himself), joins the show to take us on the journey of Supabase leading Postgres for life, and how it all starts with Postgres as the base-layer substrate for the entire Supabase platform. They’re laser focused on the drive ahead, not the rear-view mirror. Disclosure: Adam and Jerod are angel investor…
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Programming advice for my younger self (News)
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Marcus Buffett writes his younger self programming advice, Swyx asks and answers whether or not DevRel is dead, the Ghost team opens up their ActivityPub server, Pongo is like MongoDB but on Postgres, Jack Kelly is funding Ladybird because he can’t fund Firefox & Hyrum’s Law. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members save 1 minute on this episode beca…
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This week we talk to James Arthur, co-founder ElectricSQL, a local first sync engine for Postgres. ElectricSQL wants to make it easy to build local first apps with Postgres. Instead of worring about how to sync data between devices, ElectricSQL lets you reason about your database as local and running on your device. https://electric-sql.com/ https:…
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A different kind of rug pull (Friends)
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Adam & Jerod discuss the news! But first, we discuss how you can keep up with the software world (good question, Tyler Boyd!) On the docket: Developer job postings trend, the Ladybird Browser Initiative, the Polyfill.js supply chain attack & is the future self-hosted? Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 15 minutes at the end of this …
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Code review anxiety (Interview)
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Carol Lee (Clinical Scientist) shares her research on code review anxiety. We dive deep into her recent research paper “Understanding and Effectively Mitigating Code Review Anxiety”. We get into all the nooks and crannies of this topic — common code review myths, strategies for coping, the need for awareness and self-reflection, the value of exposu…
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The scariest chart in all of software (News)
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Software developer jobs are trending down, the creator of dotenv creates a better dotenv, the Chrome team puts Gemini Nano AI model right inside your browser, a pollyfill.js supply chain attack hits 100k+ sites & Steph Ango asks, “What can we remove?” Leave us a comment Changelog++ members support our work, get closer to the metal, and make the ads…
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Kaizen! NOT a pipe dream (Friends)
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Welcome to Kaizen 15! We go deep on the big Changelog News redesign, give shout outs to folks who’ve helped us along the way & Gerhard takes us on his journey to turn Jerod’s pipe dream into a reality! Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 7 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Cronitor – Cronitor help…
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MAJOR.SEMVER.PATCH (Interview)
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Predrag Gruevski and Chris Krycho joined the show to talk about SemVer. We explore the challenges and the advantages of semantic versioning (aka SemVer), the need for improving the tooling around SemVer, where semantic versioning really shines and where it’s needed, Types and SemVer, whether or not there’s a better way, and why it’s not as simple a…
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Søren Fuglede Jørgensen builds a font thats also an LLM, Hugo Landau writes about the demise of the mildly dynamic website, SQL Studio is the simplest little database explorer ever, Mathew Duggan reviews GitHub Copilot Workspace & Stephan Schmidt lays out the case against mocking + what to do instead. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members support …
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Lu Wilson - TodePond, TLDraw, and the Future of Software Interaction
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This week we have Lu Wilson (also known as TodePond) on the podcast to talk about their adventure in creating coding. Lu works at TLDraw making fantastic demo of what can build built on TLDraw by using AI in creative ways. They are also a resident at Ink and Switch and they do explorations in the future of computing. https://x.com/TodePond https://…
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Where DOESN’T curl run (Friends)
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Daniel Stenberg shares his guiding principles for BDFL’ing curl, gives us his perspective on the state of the internet, talks financial independence, ensuring curl won’t be the next XZ & more! Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 7 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today! Sponsors: Socket – Secure your supply chain…
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Jacob DePriest, VP and Deputy Chief Security Officer at GitHub, joins the show this week to talk about securing GitHub. From Artifact Attestations, profile hardening, preventing XZ-like attacks, GitHub Advanced Security, code scanning, improving Dependabot, and more. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members save 14 minutes on this episode because the…
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The onset of "Senior Engineer Fatigue" (News)
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Luminousmen writes about Senior Engineer Fatigue, Microsoft rethinks its AI-based Recall feature, Mike Hoye gives a big shout out to the “diff” program, Thom Holwerda covers ChromeOS’ quiet switch to Android Linux subsystems & Mihail Eric tells the inside story on how Alexa dropped the ball on being the top conversational system on Earth. Leave us …
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This week we have Naman Goel, the technical lead of StyleX. Stylex is a CSS-in-JS used by Facebook to build the styling of Facebook's products. We talk about the history of StyleX, how it works, and how it's better than other CSS-in-JS solutions. We also talk about how flow is better than TypeScript and why you should be using Swift over Rust. http…
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Putting the Apple in AI (Friends)
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Justin Searls joins us for hot takes on Apple’s 2024 WWDC keynote. Apple Intelligence stole the show, but did it steal our hearts? Oh, and we learn all about Justin’s Vision Pro Life and how he hopes/expects Apple’s latest device to improve in future iterations. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members save 10 minutes on this episode because they mad…
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1999: A Film Odyssey (Changelog++ 🔐) (Friends)
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Adam & Jerod hallway-track-it between Microsoft Build interviews. Was 1999 the best year in film history? Was 2004 the worst? Have you heard the full story behind Blues Traveler’s “Hook”? Are you still reading this? Go listen! (This episode is for Changelog++ ears only.) Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 43 minutes at the end of th…
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Retired, not tired. (Interview)
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Kelsey Hightower is back to share more of his wisdom. This time it’s one year after his retirement from Google. But guess what? He might be “retired,” but he’s not tired. In this episode Kelsey shares what drives him, what he fears, and how he thinks through his life choices and parenting. This is a good one. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members …
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Apple announces its “new” style of AI, piku gives you “git push” deployment on your own servers, Dabo Chen rebuilds nanoGPT in a spreadsheet, Mark Seemann thinks you’ll regret using natural keys in your database design & Glyph Lefkowitz describes his grand unified theory of the AI hype cycle. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members support our work,…
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Jason Liu - Instructor, Shipping LLMs to Production
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This week we sit down with Jason Liu, a machine learning expert and the author of the Instructor. We talk about what working with LLMs is like, how to ship them to production, and how to make them more accessible to everyone. We also talk about the future of prompt engineering and how to make it easier to build better prompts. https://x.com/jxnlco …
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What happens when you take three #define newbs (Thomas Eckert, Nick Nisi, Mat Ryer) & pit them against the grizzled vet, Adam? Find out on this episode because our award-worthy game of fake definitions is back & this time it’s even more legendary! Leave us a comment Changelog++ members get a bonus 6 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. …
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Microsoft is all-in on AI: Part 2 (Interview)
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Mark Russinovich, Eric Boyd & Neha Batra join us to discuss the state of AI for Microsoft and OpenAI at Microsoft Build 2024. It’s safe to say that Microsoft is all-in on AI. Leave us a comment Changelog++ members save 14 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today! Sponsors: Cronitor – Cronitor helps you understand your…
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Yet another open source rug pull (News)
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A popular open source iOS authenticator app goes rogue under new ownership, Andreas Kling steps back from SerenityOS & forks Ladybird, Vhyrro takes a thought-provoking try at a “static effect system”, Matt Bessey is over GraphQL & Marc-Andre Giroux still likes GraphQL sometimes (in the right context). Leave us a comment Changelog++ members save 1 m…
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Dan Farrelly, Tony Holdstock-Brown - Inngest, Easy Asynchronous Workflows
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This week we have the co-founders of Inngest, Dan Farrelly and Tony Holdstock-Brown. Inngest is a event driven workflow platform that makes it incredibly easy to build asynchronous workflows in your application. We talk about the history of Inngest, how it works, and how you can use it to build your own workflows. https://www.inngest.com/ https://t…
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Is it too late to opt out of AI? (Friends)
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Tech lawyer Luis Villa returns to answer our most pressing questions: what’s up with all these new content deals? How did Google think it was a good idea to ship AI Summaries in its current state? Is it too late to opt out of AI? We also discuss AI in Hollywood (spoilers!), positive things we’re seeing (or hoping for) & Upstream 2024 (June 5th)! Le…
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Microsoft is all-in on AI: Part 1 (Interview)
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Scott Guthrie joins the show this week from Microsoft Build 2024 to discuss Microsoft being all-in on AI. From Copilot, to Azure AI and Prompty, to their developer first focus, leading GitHub, VS Code being the long bet that paid off, to the future of a doctor’s bedside manner assisted with AI. Microsoft is all-in on AI and Build 2024’s discussions…
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Why you shouldn't use AI to write your tests (News)
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Swizec’s article on not using AI to writes tests, LlamaFs is a self-organizing file system with Llama 3, a Pew Research analysis confirmed that the internet is full of broken links, Sam Rose built a spectacular interactive study of queueing strategies & Jordan Cutler shares a real-life experience of him writing clear/readable code… and it backfirin…
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Solomon Hykes - Docker, Dagger, and the Future of DevOps
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This week we have Solomon Hykes, the creator of Docker and co founder of Dagger. We talk about the history of Docker and how it has impacted the development community. Then we dive into Dagger and how it's simplifying CI pipelines with code. We also talk about the future of DevOps and AI integration. https://twitter.com/solomonstre https://dagger.i…
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