#344 – Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

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Noam Brown is a research scientist at FAIR, Meta AI, co-creator of AI that achieved superhuman level performance in games of No-Limit Texas Hold’em and Diplomacy. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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Noam’s papers:
Superhuman AI for multiplayer poker: https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10119653
Superhuman AI for heads-up no-limit poker: https://par.nsf.gov/servlets/purl/10077416
Human-level play in the game of Diplomacy: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ade9097

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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) – Introduction
(05:37) – No Limit Texas Hold ’em
(09:30) – Solving poker
(22:40) – Poker vs Chess
(29:18) – AI playing poker
(1:02:46) – Heads-up vs Multi-way poker
(1:13:37) – Greatest poker player of all time
(1:17:10) – Diplomacy game
(1:27:01) – AI negotiating with humans
(2:09:26) – AI in geopolitics
(2:14:11) – Human-like AI for games
(2:20:12) – Ethics of AI
(2:24:26) – AGI
(2:28:25) – Advice to beginners