The Graph Layer Behind NASA’s Breakthroughs | Michael Hunger

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Michael Hunger of Neo4j, joins Simon Maple to unpack how graph databases inject structure, intent, and traceability into modern AI systems.
On the docket:

• why relationships in data encode intent
• the black-box problem in vector based RAG
• why devs should build their own MCP server

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(00:00) Trailer
(01:03) Introduction & Neo4j Origins
(03:02) Persisting Relationships for High-Performance Queries
(04:00) Modeling Business Intent & Key Use Cases
(05:00) Fraud Detection at Scale with Graph Algorithms
(06:11) Graph-Enhanced RAG vs. Vector-Only Retrieval
(09:02) Explainability & Drill-Down Evaluation in RAG
(13:05) Fusing Structured & Unstructured Data for Context
(15:00) MCP for Developer Productivity: Schema-to-Code & API Wrapping
(21:16) Security & Sandboxing Best Practices for MCP
(29:08) MCP Server Recommendations & Outro

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Chapter

1. Trailer (00:00:00)

2. Introduction & Neo4j Origins (00:01:03)

3. Persisting Relationships for High-Performance Queries (00:03:02)

4. Modeling Business Intent & Key Use Cases (00:04:00)

5. Fraud Detection at Scale with Graph Algorithms (00:05:00)

6. Graph-Enhanced RAG vs. Vector-Only Retrieval (00:06:11)

7. Explainability & Drill-Down Evaluation in RAG (00:09:02)

8. Fusing Structured & Unstructured Data for Context (00:13:05)

9. MCP for Developer Productivity: Schema-to-Code & API Wrapping (00:15:00)

10. Security & Sandboxing Best Practices for MCP (00:21:57)

11. MCP Server Recommendations & Outro (00:29:49)