Episode 2: Shame

This Is The Way: Chinese Philosophy Podcast

In this episode we interview Dr. Jing Iris Hu (HU Jing 胡婧), an associate professor at Concordia University in Canada. The central concept we explore is shame as represented in Confucian texts. Dr. Hu offers a nuanced defense of the value of Confucian shame and what it may play in our ethical lives.
Please check out Dr. Hu's article, "Shame, Vulnerability, and Change" (Journal of the American Philosophical Association, 2022) to learn more.
Join the discussion of episode 2 here!
We thank Lena Li (LI La 李拉 ) for her expert editing and sound engineering. We also thank the blog Warp, Weft & Way for hosting the discussion for this episode.
Co-hosts:
Richard Kim's website
Justin Tiwald's website

Chapter

1. Part I -- Introduction (00:00:00)

2. Part II -- Confucianism on Shame (00:16:53)

3. • Introducing Jing HU 胡婧 (our guest) (00:16:54)

4. • The two main claims of Hu’s article (00:19:52)

5. • The Confucian response to "shame rejectionism" (00:22:53)

6. • Whether Confucians need real, “objective” values to underwrite their views about shame (00:27:53)

7. • Why shame’s pro-social orientation is a good thing (00:34:37)

8. • Whether we need a sense of shame in order to have the right communicative channels with others (00:42:51)

9. • Would a fully virtuous person need a sense of shame? (Aristotle vs. the Confucians vs. Songzi) (00:49:45)

10. • Closing questions for our guest (01:05:13)

11. • Preview of the next episode (01:11:16)