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Burden of Proof

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Burden of Proof is a True Crime Podcast run by two paralegals, who happen to be generations apart! Elysia (Gen X) and Savannah (Gen Z) met at their law firm, and discovered a lifelong bond and mutual love for true crime. Come with them as they tell each other a new case each week, and use their paralegal experience to breakdown the legalities of what happens when the criminals get caught!
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Orchestration from the divine always seems to catch us off guard to the point in which we must expect the unexpected from MIRACLES in the sky and place FAITH over fear. Thanks for allowing me to help you heal what’s been masked. I’m a healer, you’re a healer, we’re all healing just at different rates & a different pace. Episodes will feature guest speakers highlighting different topics that we all face daily about our lifestyle, healing, self-esteem, and getting in tune with our star player! ...
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The Gist

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The Gist is an unfiltered pop culture podcast series that breaks down all things pop culture, entertainment, and more. Hosted by writer and pop culture connoisseur Chris Vetrano, The Gist features takes on the hottest headlines in entertainment, interviews with special guests, and deep dives into nostalgic pop culture moments. From rehashing the latest Real Housewives feuds to the moments that inspired you to dance in your living room to the "zig-a-zig ahhs," The Gist podcast is your one sto ...
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Unfinished Biz with Robin and Wayne highlights founder stories from some of the most exciting, emerging brands on the planet. Often the more interesting stories happen before companies have “made it." Unfinished Biz focuses on honest conversations around tough topics, liberating milestones and incredible stories.
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On this episode of The Gist, Chris Vetrano chats with country artist Brooke Eden about her journey in the industry and her life with her wife, Hilary. Brooke opens up about how they met, the challenges of being openly gay in country music, and her plans to start a family through IVF. She also shares what it was like to hide her sexuality early on a…
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In this episode, we dive into the tragic case of Kirsten Costas, a 15 year old high school student and cheerleader from the quiet suburb of Orinda, California, whose life was cut short by a fatal act of jealousy. Kirsten was lured out under false pretenses by her classmate Bernadette Protti and the evening took a horrifying turn. What drove this de…
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In this episode, we dive into the haunting case of the Rogers family murders also known as the Tampa Bay murders, a crime that shocked Florida in 1989. While on a dream vacation, Joan Rogers and her two daughters, Michelle and Christe, were lured onto a boat by Oba Chandler. What started as a friendly offer turned into a horrific crime when the fam…
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Chris is joined by his friends Emily Vecchio and Arielle Zimmel to recap the thrilling first season of Hulu's Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. From the scandals that rocked TikTok to the Fruity Pebbles secret that divided the group, they cover what can only be described as one of the most exciting new shows in reality TV "herstory." Join them as they …
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In this episode we unravel the horrifying story of Bruce McArthur, a seemingly harmless landscaper who preyed on Toronto's LGBTQ+ community. From his unsuspecting double life to the slow investigation that uncovered his gruesome crimes, we discuss each layer of the case. We touch on the lives of his victims, the mistakes and breakthroughs that shap…
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Kay was just your typical single mother who was trying to find companionship, love and perhaps a good role model for her son, Jason. In December of 1993, she thought she may have found just that with Victor Gunnarsson. Right when Kay thought the relationship was moving forward though, Victor disappeared. She didn't have much time to worry about Vic…
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Host Chris Vetrano sits down with rising country artist Alexandra Kay to discuss her incredible accomplishments as an independent artist. Alexandra opens up about the personal challenges she faced during her divorce, which inspired the raw honesty of her debut album "All I've Ever Known." She also shares how she's navigated the music industry, turn…
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Pauline Parker and Juliet Hulme were just your typical teenage girls living in Christchurch, New Zealand in the 1950's, or so everyone thought. The pair became fast friends through their mutual health issues that excluded them from gym class. Then, they just as quickly established their mutual love for all things dark and depraved. The girls' becam…
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To celebrate our 100th case, we discuss the women who inspired Maureen Dallas Watkins' play and longest running musical, Chicago. During the height of prohibition the beautiful and classy pair ended up in Cook County's murderess row after being charged with the murders of their lovers. Belva Gaertner, the real life counterpart to Velma Kelly, was a…
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Chris sits down with Ben Mandelker, one half of the popular podcast "Watch What Crappens," to dive deep into all things Bravo. From the ever-evolving Real Housewives franchise to the addictive shows from the vault that are in desperate need of a reboot. Brace yourself for some hilarious rants as Ben shares his expert insights on the good, the bad, …
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Possibly America's most infamous family annihilator, John Emil List shocked all of the country in 1971 when he killed his mother, wife and three children before fleeing New Jersey. Convinced he was "saving their souls" the devoutly religious Lutheran saw the death as the only way they would be accepted into Heaven. Perhaps more shocking than their …
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The working class community on the west side of Cleveland, Ohio were shocked when two teenage girls went missing almost exactly one year apart. Little did they know another young woman had been taken before that as well. All three victims had one thing in common. They knew who the perpetrator was. Ariel Castro was fairly well known on the west side…
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Chris welcomes Maggie Rose to the series to chat about her critically acclaimed new album "No One Gets Out Alive," her journey through Nashville's music scene, and her full circle moment with Kelly Clarkson. Plus, she shares some of her pop culture guilty pleasures and together the Real Housewives fans workshop her Housewives tagline. Visit the lin…
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We pick up after Ti has died and Do shifts the group's focus with a slightly more religious view and a little less sci fi perspective. Though, they still very much prepare to "graduate" to the alien ship that they believe Ti will now send for them. In order to shed more of their humanity, many of the members make major physical sacrifices. The 1990…
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When Marshall "Herff" Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles met during a stint in the psych ward of their local hospital, the pair hit it off instantly. They decided to go on a spiritual journey together once released and left their lives behind. Influenced by a number of spiritual, religious and cultural practices, they came to the conclusion that they we…
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Within a two month period, Sarah went from being a young woman who created a promising future for herself to housing three unemployed criminals. Her new boyfriend, Richard Hull, had vouched for his friend, Andrew Cataldi and Andrew's girlfriend, Tricia Nordman. Then Sarah met the couple and she thought they were great! Unfortunately, Sarah quickly …
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When 46 year old Eridania Rodriguez went missing in the middle of her evening cleaning shift, her family immediately knew something was very wrong. After a search, they reported her missing as they suspected foul play. By the next morning, most of New York City was talking about the cleaning woman who disappeared in the financial district. It took …
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After years of struggle with both life circumstances and a medical condition that gave way to bullying, Christine finally found Rachel Coloroutis and Tiffany Rowell. The two girls took Christine under their wings and helped her achieve a status she never thought possible. Voted "Miss Irresistible" of her class, she blossomed from an ugly duckling t…
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Chris is back from his summer vacation and kicking off the last half of the year with his guest, pop music mastermind, Dagny. On the heels of the release of her new mini album "Elle," Dagny shares where her passion for writing pop music came from and who she'd love to collaborate with. Plus, she shares the details of learning Katy Perry heavily sam…
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After a short summer hiatus, Chris is back with some big news about the future of the podcast. Sharing the brand new ways to stay in touch on social (see links below) and what's in store for the podcast schedule. Then, he breaks down the Justin Timberlake arrest that had everyone singing "What Goes Around Comes Around." Chris shares the details of …
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When 10 year old Joel Kirkpatrick was stabbed to death in the middle of the night at his mother's home, detectives were convinced she staged the scene. However, Julie Rea swore a masked intruder had committed the heinous act before grappling with her and making his getaway. Her story never changed and there wasn't strong physical evidence against h…
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Unsatisfied in her marriage, Candy's eye wandered towards fellow church member and friend, Allan Gore. Allan loved his wife, Betty, and had no interest in leaving her, but he could not stop thinking about Candy after she admitted she was attracted to him and thought he might be the one to fulfill her desires.The two went on to have an affair that l…
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When Marc Despain arrived home after meeting his wife Michelle for a lunch date, he was gunned down in the couple's kitchen. The house had seemingly been ransacked but nothing of serious value taken. It didn't take detectives long to figure out this wasn't a burglary.It also didn't take long for the family to turn on each other. Michelle's Father, …
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After a rocky childhood, Dana faced losing her Mother to cancer at the young age of 14. Despite getting kicked out by her Father and Stepmother at 16, Dana went on to graduate high school and attend college to pursue a career in nursing. Inspired by the nurses who took care of her Mother, she wanted to help others in such a time of need.Unfortunate…
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It's another edition of the Pop Culture Round Up, covering the best pop culture moments of the last month. This week, Chris welcomes Jim Verraros back to the podcast to chat about Met Gala red carpet looks, Hacks season three, and the hottest songs of the summer (Billie Eilish, Sabrina Carpenter). Plus, Jim talks about his sexy new single "Pyramid"…
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When Ron Cohen and his family tried to sell their Long Island, New York home, the buyers requested they clear out everything in a crawl space that had been used for storage. This included an industrial barrel that had been there since the Cohen family had bought the house 10 years prior.This reasonable request turned into a complete nightmare. When…
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Chris breaks down Taylor Swift's new album 'The Tortured Poets Department' with his track-by-track takes and thoughts about her full Anthology. From the Post Malone featured opener to the heartbreaking bop that had him think about Swift's former friend Katy Perry. Plus, he shares his opinions on where this album ranks among the Taylor Swift collect…
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Charles Scudder and his partner, Joseph Odom, moved to the town of Trion, Georgia to escape the hustle and bustle of city life in Chicago and live on their own terms. Many in the town were not happy with the couple's arrival due to their unorthodox lifestyle. Eventually acceptance grew when they realized Charles and Joseph had no ill intention towa…
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Chris is talking all about The Traitors this week! The internet broke when rumors that the season three cast had been revealed at NBC Universal's Upfront presentation early this week. Were Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie returning to reality TV on the popular game show? Was Howie Mandel really ready to put his fear of germs aside for $250k? The answ…
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When Bonnie's body was found at the bottom of a cliff just off a hiking trail, her family was in utter shock and disbelief. The park was nowhere near where she was supposed to be that day and it was completely out of character for her to stray from her routine.Karen, Bonnie's Mother, was further shocked when she arrived at the medical examiner's of…
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Chris is breaking down the birthday bombshell that kicked off the the Real Housewives of New Jersey's 14th season this week. The first 80 seconds of the season teases big things in store for the months ahead and the tides are turning for some of the friends in the group, but what does this mean for the show's future? Then, after recapping the highs…
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The prominent and wealthy Wales family dynamic had long been complicated but tensions rose when matriarch, Margaret Wales-King, and her husband, Paul King, both went missing. When it was discovered that Margaret's youngest son, Matthew, and his wife, Maritza, were the last to see Margaret and Paul, the rest of her children wanted answers. Instead, …
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This week Chris welcomes Danny Roberts, star of MTV's iconic Real World: New Orleans series. In this revealing interview, Danny spills secrets on what it was like joining the show back in 2000 and becoming an overnight gay icon. Growing up a closeted country boy, Danny never imagined he'd end up becoming a celebrity, walking red carpets, and signin…
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When the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints rejected Jeffrey Lundgren from both a position as the Kirtland Temple Guide and Sunday School Teacher, his already disturbing beliefs became completely unhinged. Having already developed a following of individuals within the church, he convinced many of them that it would be their God…
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Friend of the pod Emily Vecchio joins Chris for this month's pop culture round up, which includes a discussion about the Spice Girls reunion, a review of Taylor Swift's surprise double album drop (hello, The Tortured Poets Department era!), and the loaded baked potato that ended Tori Spelling's wedding. It's a wild week on The Gist as the duo break…
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After a tragic childhood, Aileen was living on the streets by age fourteen. From that point forward all she really knew was drinking, drugging, grifting and hooking. When she met Tyria Moore, Aileen hoped to settle down in a place of their own. However, she would go to great lengths to make ends meet and keep Tyria.From 1989 to 1990, Aileen killed …
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Chris is handing out a performance review to Bravo TV this week, as he shares ten things the network needs to consider changing to improve the quality of the content and diversify viewership. From which Housewives need to go to what types of programming Bravo execs should consider when building their upcoming lineup. Chris has some hot, but potenti…
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After passing out and being abandoned in a park, Amber Smith woke up face down on a floor, bound and gagged. When she attempted to fight back and scream, her attacker brutally assaulted her until she passed out again. The next time she regained consciousness, she was outside still naked, bound, gagged and blinded by duct tape wrapped around her hea…
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It's a VanderpumPalooza this week on The Gist, as Chris breaks down all three of the Lisa Vanderpump produced series that are airing simultaneously and ranks one of them supreme. Chris shares his thoughts on the current season of Vanderpump Rules and the dynamics of how the show has changed in a post-Scandoval era. Then, he breaks down The Valley, …
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When Brian Cohee, Jr. showed interest in the morbid at a young age, his parents did what any parents might. They encouraged him to channel that interest into something positive. They hoped it might spark an interest in forensic sciences and lead to a career helping others.Unfortunately, Brian instead chose to use his knowledge to harm others. In pa…
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Get ready to indulge in the juiciest gossip and hottest takes as special guest Joel Kim Booster joins Chris for an electrifying deep dive into the captivating world of reality TV! First, the star of the Apple TV+ series Loot shares his experience and behind the scenes tea straight from the judges panel on this season's RuPaul's Drag Race. Then the …
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Putting a twist on the love triangle, Jeff's story is more like a love pentagon, with just as many secrets as the government building. A decade long affair with one of the richest and connected women in area. A love child. Business dealings gone wrong. Jeff Zack was truly living a soap opera life.So, when he was shot point blank on Father's Day wee…
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Get ready to dive into the juiciest pop culture scoop as Cassadee Pope joins Chris for this month's Pop Culture Round Up! Kicking things off, they dish about all the unforgettable moments from this year's Oscars – including that Ryan Gosling performance that's still buzzing in all our heads! Then, Chris and Cassadee are spilling the tea on everythi…
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***WARNING: This episode is intended for mature (18+) audiences only.***After Travis Alexander's body is found in his shower five days after he was brutally murdered, everyone was quick to point detectives in the direction of Jodi. Not concerned because she had an alibi, Jodi carried on as any heartbroken friend would and attended Travis' funeral. …
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Get ready to dive into reality TV gold with Chris this week as he sits down with none other than the legendary Trishelle Cannatella to spill all the tea about her unforgettable season on The Traitors! From the jaw-dropping drama to the nail-biting finale, Trishelle spills it all – the moments that had you glued to your screen and the ones that slip…
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***WARNING: The crimes discussed in this episode include sexual assault, listener discretion is advised***When Bobby Joe Long's violence towards women escalates, he develops a pattern of picking them up or abducting them from "the strip" in Tampa. Many of them were involved in the sex industry but some of them were just unfortunate enough to live i…
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Get ready to triple the fun on this episode of The Gist as Chris spills all the juicy deets about Peacock's hottest new dating show, Couple to Throuple! Jonathan Intragio, one of the most buzzed-about singles from the series, joins Chris to dish out the inside scoop. From his wild island adventures to getting cozy with Ashmal and Rehman, Jonathan r…
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***WARNING: The crimes discussed in this episode include sexual assault, listener discretion is advised***After years of abuse, 17 year old Lisa McVey had believed her life would come to an end on November 3, 1984. She never thought that she instead would find the motivation and courage to survive an unimaginable attack that lasted over 24 hours. S…
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Join Chris this week as he chats with singer-songwriter Meghan Linsey, known for her appearances on popular reality TV shows like CMT's 'Can You Duet' and NBC's 'The Voice.' Meghan shares her journey from winning 'Can You Duet' to her impressive run on 'The Voice,' discussing the changing landscape of the music industry for talent. Tune in to hear …
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It's time for another edition of the Pop Culture Round Up! In this month's recap, Chris covers the biggest moments in music -- from the stage at the Grammy's to the field of the Halftime show. Surprise drops from Taylor Swift and Beyonce, plus the Super Bowl note that had people confused online. Then, we dive deep into the latest drama around Bravo…
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