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Vercel CPO, Tom Occhino, joins Jerod for a one-on-one covering React & Next’s past, present & future. We discuss the birth of React, Tom’s move to Vercel, deploying Next apps to non-Vercel hosts, React as the next jQuery, the viability of Web Components, Vercel customers getting surprise bills & so much more.

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Chapter

1. It's party time, y'all (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Fly.io (00:00:39)

https://fly.io/

3. Welcoming Tom Occhino (00:03:24)

4. The birth of React (00:04:48)

5. The initial reaction (00:09:34)

6. Organic growth (00:13:43)

7. The documentary (00:15:44)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pDqJVdNa44

8. Sponsor: WorkOS (00:17:01)

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9. From FB to Vercel (00:20:22)

10. Why Next.js (00:23:39)

11. Deploying Next.js to not-Vercel (00:27:34)

12. The DX vs UX thing (00:29:39)

13. Is Next.js tied to React? (00:33:33)

14. React as the next jQuery (00:36:26)

15. The viability of Web Components (00:39:32)

16. Sponsor: Notion (00:41:50)

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17. Svelte inside Vercel (00:44:13)

18. What's new in Next.js (00:46:38)

19. Denial of Wallet attacks (00:55:12)

20. Always on top of AWS? (00:58:08)

21. In-function concurrency (01:00:35)

22. V0 (the AI chapter) (01:01:42)

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23. Closing time (01:09:20)

24. Next up on the pod (01:10:22)

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