What Conquering Fear Has To Do With Spiritual Ascension – Learning To Channel

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Jessie Beyer Channeling Ishnan, An Ascended Master

Dr. Lesley: Hello, everyone, and welcome to today’s Channeling Showcase. And our guest today is Jessie Beyer. Welcome, Jessie. Jessie owns Serenity Intuitive, a spiritual healing and intuitive coaching practice in the Pacific Northwest. She is a certified spiritual life coach and a skilled animal communicator. She’s also trained as a facilitator in the Sedona Method, a medical intuitive, and a channel in the School of Intuition. The School of Intuition is my psychic development school.

Jessie focuses on helping people with spiritual awakening, soul healing, raising vibration, and reconnecting with their inner knowing. She wants to help others to be Shining Souls acting as beacons of light that help everyone else to do the same.

Dr. Lesley: So, just before we dive into the channeling itself, I have a few questions for you, Jessie. The first question is, why did you select channeling? Why is that something you were attracted to?

Jessie: Funnily enough, I wasn’t attracted to it initially. Medical intuition was something that Spirit put in my path, as it were. As most of you know, you can only ignore Spirit for so long before it brings you around to unveil your life purpose, which is your Why on this life journey.

Dr. Lesley: So you were led by the nose into doing this?

Jessie: Yes. So I’m happy I was.

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What Conquering Fear Has To Do With Ascension – Learning To Channel

Dr. Lesley: During the channeling course, you’ve had unique experiences and channeling various amazing beings. The one you will channel for us today is called Ishnan. So tell us about Ishnan, who is Asian, as you understand it.

Jessie: Yes. So, when I first connected, they told me they were an Ascended Master. Their most recent life on Earth would have been in the Mesopotamia area. They explained that where they lived was on the Red Sea and was a trading route. So, they had access to Egyptian culture, Persian culture, Asian culture, and a lot of those mystery schools.

Dr. Lesley: So yeah, it was a melting pot of all the major spiritual teachings on the planet at that time. Wow.

Jessie: Yep. And so Ishnan is an Ascended Master. Funny enough, they didn’t want to give me a name at first because they said it wasn’t important. What was important was the information. But I said it was important to me to name them. So that was the name I received, which, interestingly enough, means cleansing in the Sikh culture.

Dr. Lesley: So, how has Ishnan helped you personally?

Jessie: Well, I get a lot from the messages, especially those I did in our class. There was a lot of information there. And when I’m channeling, I’m not always absorbing that information. Only upon listening to it later do I get a lot out of it. I’ve channeled them a lot but found much of what they had to say to the point, and the message is exactly what people needed to hear. So, yes, Ishnan has helped me personally.

Dr. Lesley: I’m very excited to have an interaction with Ishnan. Before we do, I’d love to ask you one more question. As you are enrolled in the School Of Intuition’s channeling course, what’s your favorite part? How have you found that helpful for you?

Jessie: Well, I love being in the high energy of vibration when you’re channeling. Also, I’ve enjoyed working with several new spirit guides, including my Master Guide. But I’ve also forged quite a partnership with my channel and guide. So that’s been fun.

Dr. Lesley: Do you think channeling is something that everyone should do?

Jessie: Not only is it something everyone should do, it’s something everyone can do. So yes. As we’ve discussed in the course, we are all channeled entities. We are all Spirit that is being channeled into our body. I received a written message this morning from Ishnan before we started addressing that.

Dr. Lesley: Interestingly enough, I was going to ask Ishnan about embodiment because that came to me before we started. So, obviously, it’s a message that wants to come through. I’ll invite you to get into the channeling state without further ado. Let me know when you’re ready to begin.

Jessie: Before we begin, though, I would like to read what they gave me.

A Channeled Message From Ishnan

“Your wisdom and mine are no different. It’s all universal knowledge, accessible by every energy, every energetic life force. It is not hidden. It is not only for the special few because everyone and everything is special. And everyone being part of the One, has access to all. All the knowledge, all the dimensions, all the realities, all the possibilities and outcomes. The only thing blocking all of the everything is your filter. All energy life forces have a filter. Yours is not only your unique filter but also the filter of humanity. Humanity as a collective has chosen a filter with which to operate, thus limiting what information can be received and comprehended.”

Dr. Lesley: I love that very much. It’s very unifying. It’s one of those messages we need to listen to a few times to absorb fully, but it is very unifying. And I believe absolutely that that is true. And you know, none of us is any more or less superior than the other, and we all have access to all knowledge and information apart from the biases we’ve put in place. Thank you for sharing that Ishnan. Let’s delve more deeply into Ishnan’s wisdom.

Jessie: Okay,

A Channeled Message From Ishnan On Ascension And Conquering Fear

Dr. Lesley: Ishnan, welcome. Thank you so much for joining us. I’ve got a few different subject matters I thought we could discuss. The first one is something that Ishnan was also keen on talking about Ascension. So, what is Ascension?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: Ascension is merely a remembering. When you incarnate, you forget. You forget who you truly are. You forget your connectedness. So, Ascension, as you use the word, is merely the remembering of who you are. And your place in the Universe.

Dr. Lesley: Are we all ascending, and do we have a choice?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: You’ll always have a choice. Free will is the second rule. Love is the first rule; free will is the second rule. So, you always have a choice. Think of Ascension as a continuum. You’re either stepping towards it or stepping away from it. And that can be in every moment. So, yes, people are ascending. And people are choosing not to ascend. It just depends on the moment that you’re in.

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Dr. Lesley: Yeah, you just answered another question I had, which I’ll ask anyway. Did we descend before we ascended? And will we descend? Again? The answer to that is yes, based on what you just said. But you could expand on it.

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: You are correct, Lesley. I think it’s more important you think of it as a wheel. A wheel has no beginning and no end. It merely is one continuous. And therefore, sometimes you’re at the top of the wheel, sometimes at the bottom, sometimes in the middle, or sometimes on the outer edges. It’s not a linear progression, as humans like to think, but rather a choice. It is a choice as to which dimension, possibility, or reality you choose in that lifetime. In that moment, as you’ve spoken to your students about many times, all lifetimes are happening at once because all we have is this moment, the present. So, in the present, you were all spokes of the wheel at all times. It just presents as different lifetimes. Has this helped you understand?

Dr. Lesley: Yes, and I love the analogy of the wheel. I think it’s a fantastic analogy. And it made me think of the wheel of fortune in the tarot deck, which I believe comes from ancient Egypt anyway. The other thing it made me think of is that the Ascension and dissension are part of the natural pulse or the in and out breath of the Universe. You know, it’s like a natural rhythm.

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: That’s an excellent way to put it. It is the in and out breath of The Universe. Actually, it’s the in and out breath of everything. Beyond the Universe, The Universe is merely a part of it.

Dr. Lesley: Can we spin the wheel faster? Can we accelerate our Ascension? And if so, should we?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: It’s possible. However, as humans, I sense that you are trying to do the human thing, which is to skip the process or the steps. Everyone’s Ascension is happening as it’s supposed to and precisely at the time it’s supposed to. And comparing yourself to others leads to this feeling of needing to accelerate it. Enjoy the space that you’re in right now.

Dr. Lesley: Exactly. Because faster or slower is not better or worse. Here’s another question. Is Ascension becoming more loving, and is dissension becoming more afraid?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: I believe you’re asking what role love and conquering fear play in Ascension. Would that be a fair assumption?

Dr. Lesley: I like the way you phrased it.

How Love Will Conquer Fear

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: Oneness, the whole, the Void is all love. Love is the first rule. So, everything is love. It’s the filter of fear that creeps in and helps you perceive that you are descending. And therefore, becoming further from the one. The reality is that you are always part of the one. There cannot be separation, there is only love. And fear is merely a filter.

Dr. Lesley: Humans have quite a well-established fear filter. Yes. Why does fear play such a significant role in our reality? Why do we get so afraid?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: You’re on Earth the have human experiences, and you always have free will. It is human nature to continue on the same path until it becomes uncomfortable. And only then do you make the choice for betterment or change in your mind. So, fear and conquering fear are the tools that help you choose betterment. I know you want to make it something more, something bigger, something needing conquering, but it is merely a tool.

Dr. Lesley: So, fear is a tool. And you said we often wait until the fear gets so unbearably intense to make the change. So how can we learn to make the change sooner, or should we?

How To Overcome Fear Spiritually

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: Everyone is on their own path. Some only need to see that taking a different path leads to a different outcome. And therefore, they do not need to use the tool of fear. Others who are not awake or as awakened as you are calling it will often need the fear of an outcome to make a different choice. For centuries and millennia, humanity has been oppressed through fear. So, it is deeply ingrained that we should be in a fearful state. Only through spiritual practices, such as meditation, prayer, and seeking inner guidance or discernment, can you stop living in fear. These are 3 ways to overcome fear.

You can conquer fear and see it as a tool for change.

Dr. Lesley: Considering the conversation we’re having now, what are the most common, both conscious and unconscious, fears that you observe in humanity?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: The biggest fear that has been here since the dawn of time is the fear of being alone. Being alone is the primal fear that causes you to believe there is separation. The belief that there is the other and the self. The other fear we see is the fear of not being enough or not being the perfection that you are. And lastly, we see the fear of your own magnificence. This fear causes people to try and control other’s experiences. It causes people to stay stuck in the belief that they are helpless, and it causes them not to see the love that is all around them, available in infinite supply to every energetic life force, always and forever.

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Dr. Lesley: So, let’s talk about loneliness. We could all agree that there is a loneliness epidemic on our planet right now. And people feel separate from one another and separate or disconnected from Source. You explained a little bit about why that is. But what can we do about it?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: Instead of answering your question, I pose a question to you. Is there actually anything wrong with that?

Dr. Lesley: We humans feel uncomfortable with specific emotions. We feel very comfortable with the emotions on the positive end of the emotional spectrum. And we feel uncomfortable with it more negatively polarized emotions. Ultimately, the answer to your question is no. There’s nothing wrong with it. But we feel so uncomfortable with negative emotions and want to bypass them. We want to avoid feeling them.

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: Correct. But it’s that uncomfortableness where I will use and interject your words; Ascension begins. You must first feel uncomfortable to create change. So, this loneliness is the original sin and is here to help you do the very thing you chose this Spirit before you incarnated on this planet. And that is to be your true self and know the true oneness of the Universe.

Dr. Lesley: And there is a segue to the next great fear, the fear of not being good enough. And I’m yet to meet a human being who doesn’t have a fear of not being good enough. So, where does the sense of unworthiness come from? And also, and I get it. In a way, the answer is the same. We need to sit with these feelings and fully accept them to change. But where does our unworthiness come from? And is there any other wisdom to help us master that experience you could offer?

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Jessie Channeling Ishnan: Part of the reason for the feelings of unworthiness is because your religions have taught you that you are unworthy. It is systematic programming, if you will, to control instead of help you realize that God is in you. God is everywhere, and you are not separate. Religions have tried to control by taking away the very message that every prophet has tried to convey throughout millennia. As frustrating as that may be, it is now part of the human filter.

And those who are awakening or ascending are starting to see that this is not true. These humans are starting to see that they are enough. But that’s many, many millennia of programming to overcome. And we are always here to help. We were always here to assist. And we are always here to send the love. The love that, you know, means that you are exactly enough. You are precise perfection, exact perfection in your imperfection. And that’s what makes you special.

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Dr. Lesley: Thank you. The next fear you told us about was fear of our own power and magnificence, which is the flip side of unworthiness. And you have already given us quite a lot of information about that. There’s a misunderstanding about power and what power is. For the same reasons you’ve been talking about, power can be misconstrued to be something you do to manipulate and control others. And that you need to do that in order to be okay.

So, we must realize that true power is in knowing the self, being in balance within the self, and expressing our true self and authentic nature. So, one of the things that’s bandied about a lot in modern spiritual circles is the word authenticity. So, what does it mean to be authentic and to live authentically?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: There is a human whose life may give you a good example of authenticity. And that would be Gandhi. Gandhi had no power, politically or otherwise, yet became very well known. Gandhi lived an authentic life, knowing who and what he was at all times. And that allowed him to make real change in the world. I could tell you many ways to do it. But often, humans need the example of one who’s lived that way before. So, I encourage you, if you are still questioning how to be in your power, to look to the life of Gandhi.

Dr. Lesley: That is a beautiful example. We definitely see through that example one human who helped many other humans and helped change the world. So, being our authentic selves is the best way to contribute to our planet and our fellow humans. And yet, most of us continue to lie to ourselves about who we are and about who others are. And we remain in denial of the true self. You’ve given us a lot of reasons for all the fears and things, but help us understand in a bit more depth. Can you comment on why it’s so hard for us to be authentic?

Jessie Channeling Ishnan: We’ve spoken about filters, but I don’t think you fully grasp my meaning. In your words, not being honest with oneself is the filter of not wanting to deal with the layers. Dishonesty is a filter that allows for the illusion to continue. Yet you say this is no problem because everyone will eventually reach it at their own pace.

Some may not reach it in this lifetime, and that is okay. Some will get very far along the path in this lifetime. Again, that is okay. Some may reach full realization and authenticity and become bodies of light. You are not meant to do it all in one lifetime. You are not meant to strip away all illusions all at once, which would be far too much for the mind and the body. And this is why it appears to be a gradual process on your planet. That is not to say that some don’t do it in an instant. But those souls are rare. My best advice is don’t be so hard on yourself and enjoy the ride.

Embracing Fear And Conquering Fear

Learn more about the ascension, love, and conquering fear in this channeled message from Ishnan, and you can source that in the full video.

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