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Cultic relationships are EVERYWHERE! We’ve all been affected at some point by a controlling or abusive group or person, and Hoyt and Chele are the perfect examples of what it means to go from “victim to survivor to thriver.” Our hosts were both leaders in their different, but equally destructive cults, and between them, they have 37 years worth of harrowing tales and vantage points. Not only will they bring on experts and courageous guests to share their own cult survival stories, but they w ...
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jon atack, family and friends

jon atack, family and friends

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Become a Paid Subscriber: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jon-atack-family--friends/subscribe Become a Paid Subscriber: https://anchor.fm/jon-atack-family--friends/subscribe jon atack, along with his son sam, present a series of educational podcasts on how to spot, avoid, and overcome unethical manipulation of all kinds - from destructive cults and abusive relationships, to advertising, groupthink, bullying and more. join us in our hope to create a world where people are taught from ...
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The mitochondria are not just the powerhouse of the cell; they are the engines that run our entire body. If we can remove the obstructions to energy production (calcification, lipofuscin and fibrosis) everything works better, we experience mental clarity and emotional resilience.
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Food Allergy and Your Kiddo

Alice Hoyt, MD, and Pam Lestage, MBA

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If your kiddo has a food allergy, then this is the podcast for you. Join food allergy experts - board-certified allergist Dr. Alice Hoyt, MD, FAAAAI, and food allergy mama Pam Lestage, MBA - as they dive into all things food allergy. Hear interviews with world-renown allergists as well as food allergy advocates and food allergy families, just like yours. This podcast will answer many of your food allergy questions and provide you with strategies to make your life and your family's life ones ...
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There’s never been a musical theatre game show… until now. In The Great Broadway Game Show Competition teams of Broadway stars face off against each other, and the audience, to identify show tunes and win money for charity, all while sharing intimate stories and memories from their lives and careers. Who do you think knows more about musicals? Who can remember all the lyrics to the most obscure songs on Broadway? Tune in and play along with host Todd Graff as he puts everyone’s knowledge to ...
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Professors Jeffrey L. Littlejohn and Wesley G. Phelps discuss topics in World and U.S. History with the faculty members and graduate students at Sam Houston State University. Each episode features concise interviews with authors on current publications. Join us.
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Hoyt shares his experience as a long term member of a group with a base in astrology. He was recruited at age 16. He studied at Princeton University and became internationally successful but stayed in the group for 20 years. Why do we accept conspiracy theories and magical ideas? To what extent do limitations in perception and interpretation inhibi…
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As a member of Dustin's PhD committee, Jon became familiar with his research into public awareness of psychological manipulation. Dustin describes the motivation for his work and the survey he used to estimate public understanding of manipulation. This breakthrough research will hopefully encourage other graduate students to work in this vastly und…
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When is the last time you've looked at the tag on your underwear, pants, shorts, shirts, or jackets? There are literally thousands of things that we can upgrade in our lives to reduce our risk of acquiring a disease and half of the battle is not getting stressed about it and just making small incremental changes month after month. Dan Baird created…
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Every once in awhile i'll see a surge of "return to nature" arguments with regards to drinking water. In a recent podcast I heard the guest going as far as to defend tap water, conflating reverse osmosis with distilled water, making the argument that our ancestors didn't filter their water, saying that reverse osmosis causes greying of hair, arseni…
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Dr Ethan Russo has been involved in cannabis research for many years. He dispels some of the myths and talks about recent breakthroughs in the treatment of anxiety and dementia. Dr Russo focuses on current research into limonene and cannabigerol. A fascinating conversation with a true expert.Links:Ethan's site: https://ethanrusso.org Acute effects …
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When I started studying human health back in 2010 I immediately started not only reading about but taking action on information that I learned about light, water and magnetism. I was grounding myself rod to earth while I slept within the first year of my research. Fast forward to 2024 and i've seen many difference companies pop up from silver embed…
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Jeremy is anxious to prevent a dissociation death spiral in our culture. We explore further his approach to Trump supporters and Jon offers some portmanteau words - Jeremy's speciality - including Magavellian, utopiates and fascilitators.Links:Jeremy's videos: "Ruin A Trumpist's Day The Nice Way"and "How to Stage Interventions With Trump Addicts"…
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In this solo show I answer listener questions including: What are supplements for irritable bowel disease? What are natural solutions for preventing pre-eclampsia? Recommendations for a high quality bed and mattress? What are my thoughts on enemas? What is the diet of my two cats? How long do I plan on taking zeolite? What are my thoughts on diatom…
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The social science that supports our work with cults has been questioned in the last decade. We discuss the complaints about Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment, Stanley Milgram's Yale shock machine studies, and Sherif's Robbers Cave Experiment.Note: this was recorded a few days before Dr. Zimbardo passed. He was truly a titan of our field and wi…
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Bacillus subtilis is a common bacteria that is found in the upper layers of soil, dairy products, and fermented foods. Zack Abbott, co-founder of ZBiotics, genetically modified that strain of bacteria to give it the unique function of converting a form of sugar called sucrose into a unique type of fiber called levan. In this episode he shares his t…
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Many of us in the counter-cult world are alarmed at the prospect of a Trump presidency. Trump has proved himself to be an authoritarian. His following accept the vague promises of greatness and the lack of policy, despite hundreds of leading Republicans declaring for Harris.Buy the NEW edition of Steven Hassan's Cult of Trump!…
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There is a lot of noise on social media about the harms or usefulness of various supplements. Zeolite is one that is constantly under attack with information that always lacks nuance and specificity about the dosage and form of zeolite, whether its powdered, liquid or nano. While a lot of the misinformation was deconstructed in the first show with …
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Spike joins Jon to discuss the books, movies, and documentaries that can help people wean themselves from Scientology's problematic beliefs. Please leave your own viewing/reading recommendations in the comments below!As always, please be kind and respectful of others' viewpoints.Links:Jon on Andrew GoldJon on LadBibleSecret Lives: L. Ron HubbardThe…
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Did you know that the creator of Kelloggs corn flakes had a brother that became obsessed with light therapy? Brian Richards, founder of Sauna Space, joins us to talk about the history of light therapy and how it helped improve his past struggles with insomnia, brain fog and fatigue. We talk about the difference between sunlight and artificial light…
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in his "How to roll trolls and stump Trumpists", Jeremy has outlined his own approach to disappointing Trump's followers. Jeremy lays out his fascinating analysis of the 'herobot' the follower who avoids self-doubt by attaching to the 'dumbergogue' Trump. As usual, Jeremy is eloquent and spills over with ideas that will make you smart. Jon suggests…
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Christian is an expert on those groups most often called 'cults'. He explains his own less emotive description of such groups. As usual, Christian dispenses with psychobabble and offers a useable and useful model for the better understanding of the 'cult' experience.Spike's note: Zoom cut this discussion a bit short; we apologize for the abrupt end…
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What is homeopathy and where did it start? What is "like cures like", minimum dose and the laws of cure? How do you choose the right potency of a homeopathic remedy? Where should someone begin when working with the twelve tissue salts? Which homeopathic remedies should someone keep in their first aid kit? What is the astrology and homeopathy connec…
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In this episode I explain not only why I'm moving again but why I've been moving frequently for the past few years. I talk about the 100 acres that I'm moving to soon and what I'm doing to restore an abandoned large underground bunker with a built-in pyramid. I break down my plans for how the tall capstone will be built, talk about pyramid energy a…
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I often see health educators talk down on the need for supplements, going as far as to say they are a waste of money or toxic. While these can be true for lower quality brands that put profit above quality, it is not always true. Nutritional supplements save lives and they're necessary in today's world. In this solo show I break down exactly why su…
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Belief doesn't simply evaporate when we leave a group. Hoyt and Jon talk about their own experiences on the road to claiming authority for their own beliefs. Jon suggests an easy way to kickstart the process. To the outside world, Hoyt seemed to exemplify success - a sports star, Princeton graduate who earned a fortune as the first man ever called …
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It seems that every month on social media there is a new boogeyman in the health world, whether its a vitamin, mineral, or a safe substance like zeolite. The caveat to it being safe is found in this podcast with Jeff Hoyt, owner of Zeolite Labs. This is a "Best Of" show repost from earlier this year because I think its really important that this in…
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Chris Kilham talks about a lifetime searching the world for health-giving plants. Not only has he travelled across continents and helped to establish local production, he has also been consulted by many pharmaceutical companies that are finally moving towards the use of tried and tested natural remedies. Chris talks about his own legal cannabis cro…
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Steve is a lifelong jazz fan. He even used to write a column under the name Dr Jazz. Jon and Steve both believe in the redeeming qualities of music. Steve expresses his enthusiasm at finding that a current presidential candidate shares his love of jazz. The usual wide-ranging conversation about jazz and music in general peppered with fascinating fa…
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Rick Malter is a PhD and a veteran in the space of hair tissue mineral analysis (HTMA) testing. He was around when it was just getting started and in the early 2000s he decided to retire from his psychology practice and devote all of his time to refining the art and science of HTMA to improve human health. In this episode he talks about Dr Paul Eck…
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Oral immunotherapy (OIT) has revolutionized the way we manage food allergies in children. Join Dr. Alice Hoyt as she interviews Dr. Richard Wasserman, a true pioneer in this groundbreaking treatment. Dr. Wasserman shares his journey on how and why he started offering OIT to patients over 15 years ago. Dr. Hoyt and Dr. Wasserman discuss the history …
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Jeremy gifts us some of his new words that portmanteau concepts. Criticism of Malkin's model of narcissism ('feeling special') and Jeremy's embrace of the doctrine of foregone inconclusions. A delight for the eager mind.Jeremy's Book, Neither Ghost Nor Machine, can be bought here:https://www.amazon.com/Neither-Ghost-nor-Machine-Emergence/dp/0231173…
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When you get deep enough into the natural health world, you learn about heavy hydrogen or deuterium. It is a natural contaminant that builds up in our body over time and stalls the nano motor in our mitochondria called the ATPase. Victor Sagalovsky of Litewater joins us once again to talk about the health benefits of depleting deuterium in the body…
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The environment that we live in has a huge impact on our health, both from a materials standpoint of what the home is made out of and even the shape of the structure itself. When I began studying nutrition over a decade ago I meditated quite a bit on the thought that we are always inside of boxes and maybe thats what keeps our ability to think crit…
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Jeremy has been working with neuroscientist Terrence Deacon at Berkley for 30 years. He shares insights about his head on challenges to true believers which contrasts with Jon's more gentle approach to mindchanging.Spike's note: Regarding the Universe-spinning, tutu-wearing rhino, I couldn't resist. I plugged the prompt into Meta's AI, but it would…
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Cordycepin is the main compound in the parasitic fungus cordyceps that exerts numerous effects on immune health, respiratory health, energy, stamina, libido, and more. It has been used for thousands of years in Chinese medicine and recently we've discovered the exact mechanisms of how it exerts its beneficial effects. Dr Scott Sherr, COO of Troscri…
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Jon is joined by Spike for this discussion about how we can tell if we're truly free from the clutches of our former high-control group - it's far more involved than just leaving; often it takes a concerted effort lasting years to unwind oneself from deep psychological indoctrination and fully heal the damage done.Here's all the links:the crimes of…
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Christian Szurko is a leading expert on extremist authoritarian sects. In almost five decades, he has helped thousands of people to digest and integrate their experience and become thriving survivors. Christian explains his compelling model of the process of cult involvement, which is helpful in undoing exploitative persuasion and understanding the…
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Carbon dioxide, CO2, is often referred to as a waste product of cellular metabolism, as well as an environmental problem as it relates to shifting the temperature of the earth with a greenhouse effect. Oxygen therapy is, by far, the most promoted health therapy out there that utilizes gasses. Second place would go to ozone gas, and third would go t…
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Shawn is fascinated that Jon's positive attitude is not based in religious belief. Jon talks about the wide range of influences that have led him to lose any concern for personal immortality.links:Jon's current websiteJon's defunct website with the artJon's writings on the Underground BunkerNever believe a hypnotist -the paperthe videoPossible Orig…
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Glutathione is one of the major endogenous antioxidants that is made in nearly every cell in our body. Oxidative stress occurs when the body is exposed to toxins whether its air pollution from cars, excessive heavy metals, mold, or disruptive types of EMF. Dr Nayan Patel, inventor of a transdermal glutathione called Glutaryl, explains how it quench…
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a discussion about the egotism that makes us prey to cults, maintains our relationship with them, and makes it difficult to accept the ways in which cults modify our beliefs and behaviour. As ever, Hoyt shares his own dreadful experiences and helps to explain how to overcome obstacles to recovery from authoritarian abuse.Ex-Scientology KidsSocrates…
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We often hear about detoxifying our body and if we do hear about detoxifying our home it is only laser focused on mold or electromagnetic fields. We need hyper specialization to get to the root of problems but we also need big picture perspectives. In this episode Josh Kaye, author of "Toxic: A Comprehensive Guide to a Healthier Home", joins us to …
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We thought that in describing this particular episode, we would give you updates on the lawsuits happening against the ICOC and the ICC cults. First, the Los Angeles ICOC and the ICC said they were “Shocked and Appalled,” and that if any ‘alleged’ abuse happened, it was a long time ago and they knew nothing about it. Which were blatant and cowardly…
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Chris is an expert on a wide range of psychoactive plants including cannabis. He has travelled the world for decades, visiting indigenous people to discover natural medicines, superfoods, and psychoactives. He has revisited these communities and helped to establish trade routes to their and the world's benefit.Chris first visited Brazil in 1997 and…
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Israel "Raven" Ruiz was introduced to the ancient art of alchemy in Taos, New Mexico. In this episode he shares stories of animals showing up in front of him dying as if they were asking to be transmuted into spagyrics. He talks about how we can learn powerful life lessons from taking them in, how this differs from homeopathy, the difference betwee…
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What is the gold standard in diagnosing an anaphylactic food allergy? It's not a skin test. It's not a blood test. It's an ingestion challenge. In this episode,Dr. Alice Hoyt discusses the critical role of ingestion challenges when it comes to accurately diagnosing IgE-mediated food allergies. By consuming the suspected allergen under the careful s…
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absurd beliefs can lead to atrocities. Cult specialist Joe Szimhart is an artist whose journey into the world of cults began with his interest in the paintings of Nicholas Roerich who led Agni Yoga. Roerich believed he was the 'king of the world' and cultivated an influential following - including Henry Wallace, FDR's Secretary of State for Agricul…
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In 2019 I designed a health protocol that was based on my previous 10 years of research and experience with nutrition, supplements and health technology. I recorded one show summarizing my CLF Protocol several years ago but I figured it is time to do a deep dive into each of its three parts, starting with lipofuscin. In this solo show I share infor…
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Frances spent the first 44 years of her life as a Jehovah's Witness. Since leaving, she has dedicated herself to counselling former members. As Frances says, authoritarian cults give members overwhelming and impossible responsibilities. They can also diminish the real responsibilities we should accept. After leaving a cult, it is important to reass…
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John the Savage returns to the show for a coffee chat. We cover a range of topics including how homesteading has been romantasized on social media, why I don't think being completely off the grid is ideal, our trials and tribulations with gardening, John's current favorite supplements, what two things helped him get out of a funk, why he adds gelat…
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a discussion about the recent D-Day and Memorial Day commemorations, the recognition of PTSD and the recent decision of the American Psychiatric Association to create a Caucus on Peace. We talk about the successes and failures of the Truth and Reconciliation process and the need for dialogue in all fraught situations.Spike's note- it seems someone …
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What role does genetics and the health of the parents play in a child's risk of developing a skin condition like eczema? Why is it a myth that only the mother's health matters and not the fathers in healthy child development? What causes "leaky skin"? Which foods should be limited initially when healing from eczema? Why can sunlight exposure exacer…
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We are delighted to hear that Scientology critic John Sweeney is standing for the UK parliament in the July 2024 elections. John is famous for his 'exploding tomato' response to the taunts of a Scientology agent while filming for BBC Panorama. He subsequently wrote a book about group and has made criticism of Scientology central to his campaign for…
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